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Jul 9^th, 2012 at 8:24am

http://www.news.com.au/national/high-profile-sex-offender-dennis-ferguson-spotte...

High-profile sex offender Dennis Ferguson spotted selling RSPCA biscuits in Sydney CBD

Paedophile Dennis Ferguson was spotted selling biscuits and other items fundraising for the RSPCA in Sydney. Source: The Daily Telegraph

THE gray-haired man named Ray held up a tin of kangaroo-shaped biscuits, trying to raise cash for the RSPCA.

But this was no ordinary charity seller. It was Australia's high-profile sex offender Dennis Ferguson.

The Daily Telegraph yesterday spotted the 64-year-old convicted paedophile selling merchandise to the public at Circular Quay under the name Ray Ferguson.

His stall offered various animal-shaped shortbread biscuits, pens, stickers and badges for the RSPCA.

Passers-by would not have suspected anything untoward about the older man trying to make a dollar for charity.

But when approached yesterday, he confirmed he was Dennis Ferguson, using his middle name for charity work.

Ferguson was jailed for 14 years for sexually assaulting three children aged six, seven and eight in a Brisbane motel in the late 1980s.

Soon after release, he was caught wandering through a primary school in Parramatta - against his parole conditions - and sent back to jail.

"What's the big deal? So I made a boo boo in the past, that's over," Ferguson said yesterday.

The RSPCA last night said it had no idea the man named Ray who signed up as a fundraiser for the "family-focused brand" was a child sex offender, and it would seek to revoke his volunteer permit.

"The RSPCA is associated with puppies and kittens which appeal to children, and our brand is family-focused," a spokeswoman said.

"We would not want people thinking they can't trust our volunteers."

It is not the first time Ferguson has signed up for charity work under an alias since his release.

In 2010, he was found selling children's toys in Kings Cross on behalf of Diabetes Australia, without proper authority.

As a result, police obtained an order requiring Ferguson to notify the Child Protection Authority before engaging in charity work that would put him in contact with children.

Ferguson refused to say yesterday whether he had notified police about his charity work. "They know about me, that's all I will say," he said.

Police said details of people on the Child Protection Register could not be made public.

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Reply #1 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 9:29am

Umm - not sure of your drift here - how exactly does this 'nurture' paedophiles?

It seems from the reading that he was caught out giving the RSPCA a false name, and that he was required to advise police of any volunteer work he might do.

I can agree to some extent that holding details private form the public has risks - but there are public sites that 'out' these kinds of person. Mako is one.

So unless you are saying that access to information on the list should be available to prospective employers etc - and he DID give a false name obviously - what is your point?

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Reply #2 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 9:33am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

Umm - not sure of your drift here - how exactly does this 'nurture' paedophiles?

It seems from the reading that he was caught out giving the RSPCA a false name, and that he was required to advise police of any volunteer work he might do.

I can agree to some extent that holding details private form the public has risks - but there are public sites that 'out' these kinds of person. Mako is one.

So unless you are saying that access to information on the list should be available to prospective employers etc - and he DID give a false name obviously - what is your point?

i think he was refering to this

details of people on the Child Protection Register could not be made public.

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Reply #3 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:04am

OK. Well, I've had serious concerns over the 'privacy acts' business for a long while now - for two reasons:-

a. Knowledge itself is not power - but CONTROL of knowledge is, and I have personally experienced the disempowerment of the individual through government control of information that directly impacts on that individual (myself in this case). In one of two cases involving myself - this has left me open to attack without proper reason and without the means of self-defence; in the other it left me without the means to secure restitution of a wrong done to me.

b. Control of information by the Staat itself constitutes in some cases a clear and present danger to the general community - who are, obviously, totally unaware of what can be happening right next to them, as is the case with this incident. Thus the community is itself disempowered in favour of governmental control - a control that government is incapable of exercising in its entirety for the benefit of that community - and thus the community is left without the means of self-defence.

To segue this into an ongoing theme of mine - here and elsewhere - this is just one of the major pitfalls and failings of what I call Ubersocialist Uberkontrol of society - as we are seeing in development as we speak, under many disguises.

The removal of the right of the community to a legitimate self-defence - while this may well fit neatly into the ideologies of those interested in total control of our society - is a destructive influence on our society as a whole - and causes far too many casualties along the way to this Ubersocialist hegemony.

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that should confuse yez...for a while...

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Reply #4 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:12am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

OK. Well, I've had serious concerns over the 'privacy acts' business for a long while now - for two reasons:-

a. Knowledge itself is not power - but CONTROL of knowledge is, and I have personally experienced the disempowerment of the individual through government control of information that directly impacts on that individual (myself in this case). In one of two cases involving myself - this has left me open to attack without proper reason and without the means of self-defence; in the other it left me without the means to secure restitution of a wrong done to me.

b. Control of information by the Staat itself constitutes in some cases a clear and present danger to the general community - who are, obviously, totally unaware of what can be happening right next to them, as is the case with this incident. Thus the community is itself disempowered in favour of governmental control - a control that government is incapable of exercising in its entirety for the benefit of that community - and thus the community is left without the means of self-defence.

To segue this into an ongoing theme of mine - here and elsewhere - this is just one of the major pitfalls and failings of what I call Ubersocialist Uberkontrol of society - as we are seeing in development as we speak, under many disguises.

The removal of the right of the community to a legitimate self-defence - while this may well fit neatly into the ideologies of those interested in total control of our society - is a destructive influence on our society as a whole - and causes far too many casualties along the way to this Ubersocialist hegemony.

Cheesy

that should confuse yez...for a while...

maybe you should try rewriting this in clear english and not in 'conspiracy theorist' lingo.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85099 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Laws that Nurture Paedophiles Reply #5 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:15am "Without conspiracies there would be no conspiracy theories". This is not conspiracy theory - it is an evaluation of the impact of specific things on our society. You'll get there, Grasshopper.... live long, prosper, and THINK...
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Reply #6 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:32am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

"Without conspiracies there would be no conspiracy theories".

This is not conspiracy theory - it is an evaluation of the impact of specific things on our society.

You'll get there, Grasshopper.... Grin

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Construct a clear, elegant argument free from conspiracy theory and you might get a response. But your post is not at all clear and seems mostly a confusing retelling of your own ideology. it is a common trait among conspiracy theorists that their message is extremely complex, confusing and contradictory. Truth has an un-nerving habit of being clear and simple.

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Reply #7 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:47am

Well - you see - to me this is simple - nothing hard in it at all. It just takes the ability to read and to understand what is being said - a sadly declining thing in modern society from my observation.

Any chance you could stick with the issue? I've had my say - got anything to contribute to what I said, since negatives are meaningless? Just take it one step at a time - you can do it!
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Reply #9 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 11:21am

FriYAY wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:50am:

Small lead weight behind the right ear should do the trick.

Precisely WHY their names shouldn't be made public.

Must be a slow-news day so it's 'Let's harrass Ferguson again'.

I can't see that he's done ANY wrong here, sorry.

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Reply #10 - Jul 9^th, 2012 at 1:15pm

Kat wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:50am:

Small lead weight behind the right ear should do the trick.

Precisely WHY their names shouldn't be made public.

Must be a slow-news day so it's 'Let's harrass Ferguson again'.

I can't see that he's done ANY wrong here, sorry.

**Disclaimer: - I do NOT in ANY way support or condone paedophilia.**

making the register public information has been shown to be counter-productive. it has been an absolute social disaster in the USA and has led to murders in the UK (not the person actually onthe register). so why dont we have a publci register of murderers or thos convicted of serious assault? what about a register of those accused of shoplifting so they can be black-banned from shops for the rest of their lives?

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