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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/preston-mosque-in-strife-over-telling-...


ah, I hear the cries now ........."that's not islam ........"

Joumah El Matrahexecutive director for Australian Muslim Women's Centre for Human Rights, said she and a number of other people wanted to provide the woman with alternative advice because "Muslim marriage is a partnership, it is not a woman serving a man".

‘‘We are deeply concerned by the advice provided by Preston Mosque; it reflects a poor understanding of marital discord in Muslim families,’’ Ms El Matrah said.


"Being only one woman specifically doesn't make it any better."

Ms El Matrah says she is deeply concerned that such advice was being given since polygamy was not legal in Australia and did not reflect the growing push against it in Islamic countries.

"Research indicates that polygamy contributes to violence in the family home and is detrimental to children, especially the boys. It creates heartache and distress for all those involved, even the men," she said.

She said her organisation was too under-resourced to conduct any research into the existence of polygamy in Australia since a lot of shame was attached to the practice and it was almost impossible to get anyone to talk about it.

"Everybody knows someone who has been in a polygamy situation but I have never met someone who has been in that kind of set-up," she said. "People won't speak to you or those people don't exist."

She said the federal government was not contributing in any way to helping root out or eradicate polygamy, except to point out that it was an illegal practice.

She said that it did not stop conservative mosques secretly pushing these views in Australia, only in this case it has been exposed.

The official website of the Preston Mosque posted the statement on its page but has since taken it down due to the backlash from Islamic groups, including from the Islamic Council of Victoria.

The statement read: "It is very important for a wife to fulfil the rights of her husband. Why? Because Allah commanded her to, after marriage Jannah is through her husband, and also the husband is your partner. A partner is someone you share with not someone who does things for you.

"If a man is saying to his wife I will marry another woman, this is far better than saying you are divorced every time he is upset.

"Now where is the problem. If a man divorces his wife three times he has destroyed his family. They can no longer return to each other. Islam only allows two divorces and returns.

"So if your husband is telling you that he wants to take another wife and you are not doing the right thing by him, then know that he is thinking straight and using a weapon that doesn't have severe consequences."

A spokesman for Preston Mosque declined to comment on the matter.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/concerns-over-mosque-leaders-polygamy-post-20120711-21uu8.html#ixzz20I5qto2q

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:


There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. If you study the holy kran like I have you will not find any mention of words 'moderate muslim'. The holy kran is the immutable word of Allah as dictated to Mo.

Last time you were making fun of me because Muslims will want to kill me for apostasy.

You're a bit all over the place, aren't you?

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 6:33pm:


That is a bit hypothetical is it not? I do not live in a country run according to Islamic law, so my opinion of certain elements seem to be hardly relevant.

I suggest examining the issue of the apostate. Is there anything wrong with her?

Clearly the answer is yes. An apostate has rejected pure Islamic monotheism.

We are presented with two possibilities. Either the apostate is mentally inadequate, which makes her innocent in Islamic law, or she is a committed polytheist.

The polytheist disrespects God, and therefore earns the reward of the Hellfire. What could be worse for a human than going to the Hellfire?

The apostate is cursed by God for choosing polytheism.

The apostate is particularly harmful to the monotheistic society because she propagates a message of polytheism - if a disbeliever was not interested in propagation of polytheism, then she would either flee the Islamic state or remain quiet.

So the apostate is one who would call people to the Hellfire, and there is nothing worse that can happen to people than going to Hell. Therefore the apostate is a dangerous individual who harms her community.

salad in wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:



Where's the mention in the Torah of moderate Jews?