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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #150 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:16pm ... wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:11pm: When all elese fails let the sock puppet accusations begin. yaaaawn. Are you even a human being or a liberal cliche-bot? I'll take that as a yes.
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Reply #151 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:26pm:

No. But that doesn't answer the question. I'll ask again, for the third time, are you pro-Muslim?

Is that relivant? Do you need to be pro any group in order to be anti discriminating against them?

Well, you do to an extent. Multiculturalism tolerates or celebrates, depending on which way you look at it, different cultures. Therefore, you have to be pro-Muslim enough to allow it to exist. If you're indifferent, like our friend Git here has just confessed, then it shouldn't matter to him how they're viewed.

At one time people in Australia expected anyone to get a fair go. This is irrespective of if you agree with them or not. You do not need to be pro anything in order to expect people who are to be treated in a reasonable manner.

I don't agree. Treating people in a reasonable manner means you must be pro-human to some degree.

Anyone not pro-human would be a worry - though possibly a good coalition candidate to line up with the rest of them!

Human beings are judged on their deeds, values, morals etc. I am entitled to judge them accordingly, just as you are, and do.

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Reply #152 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:18pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

It's very telling that a simple question devoid of any ad hominem sends you into a rage. I've hit a nerve here.

That aside, if you're neither anti or pro Muslim, then your position is one of indifference. Then why would you get angry at those who dislike Muslims?

A rage? Hardly! Grin

Not even close on that one.

OK, just for you, sans any ad-hom so you'll feel warm and safe:

Pro or anti muslim does not equate to indifference. The issue is intolerance, not religion or race for that matter. I am intolerant of intolerance. That means I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you?

Your 'intolerance of intolerance' doesn't really work. Otherwise, you'd be intolerant of your own intolerance toward me. So we are back to square one: If you're defending them you must be doing so on some grounds. Hence, there must be something about them that's worth defending.

Wrong again. I am always tolerant of myself, naturally. So no seegar for you.

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Reply #153 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:19pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:09pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 12:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

What an absolute load of Bollocks ..... you rednecks have no idea

Any refugee in Indonesia can NEVER get a job, Never own a home or business, they live in jails, slums or on the streets begging and stealing for enough food to survive .....the odd ones that do work, do so for cash money only and usually at a lessor rate than an Indonesian may get for the same job .....they have no rights ... this isn't living ... it's no way to raise a family or plan for a future ... I'd like to see any one of you morons settle for that .....

So these people smugglers obviously don't charge anything...so on your argument they're humanitarians giving a lift to refugees out of the goodness of their hearts...

It doesnt matter if they have any money if they cant get accommodation or food or a job Savings will go fast Besides i think most of them get the money form relatives already settled in other countries.

SOB

So Indonesia is happy to have them until the money runs out?

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SOB

Congratulations on being devoid of an argument or a point.

Congratulations for being a dick. So where exactly did i say anything about indonesia being happy to have them? Did you read the smacking thread?

Ok idiot. Baby talk.

Your point: ppl smugglers work for free and indonesia welcomes refugees

My point:
Refugees are not welcome in indonesia.
Refugees cannot get a job or home or go to school in indonesia
If they are caught refugees get locked up in indonesia
Sometimes refugees have relatives that can send them money so they can get out of indonesia

SOB

You send them money and a decent boat then kunt...

Rather than misrepresenting others.

I read your fn thread and like most of the shyte you seem to squeeze out is largely anecdotal, unsubstantiated, suppositions on your part and very short on any sort of substantiation.

You an ignorant twat...your mother said so...although it was a bit difficult to understand seeing as she had her mouth full and I was at the other end.

Wow! Not only going into a rage at yourself in public but also publicly admitting to being a mother fvcker at the same time! Way to go retard!

Did we get confused with our socks wesley?
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Up your noddy.
Like I give a toss what the bugger you think.

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Reply #154 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

It's very telling that a simple question devoid of any ad hominem sends you into a rage. I've hit a nerve here.

That aside, if you're neither anti or pro Muslim, then your position is one of indifference. Then why would you get angry at those who dislike Muslims?

A rage? Hardly! Grin

Not even close on that one.

OK, just for you, sans any ad-hom so you'll feel warm and safe:

Pro or anti muslim does not equate to indifference. The issue is intolerance, not religion or race for that matter. I am intolerant of intolerance. That means I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you?

Your 'intolerance of intolerance' doesn't really work. Otherwise, you'd be intolerant of your own intolerance toward me. So we are back to square one: If you're defending them you must be doing so on some grounds. Hence, there must be something about them that's worth defending.

Wrong again. I am always tolerant of myself, naturally. So no seegar for you.

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

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Reply #156 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

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Reply #157 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

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Reply #158 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

Those racist pig sphincters look just like anyone else. Everytime you go out you see some. There might be one in the house flat hovel with you right now.....

da dahhhhh

dadaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Reply #159 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:50pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

You're back to the abuse again. I must have touched a nerve again.

See, I know what's really going on here. You won't say you're pro-Muslim because this will align you with stoning women to death for adultery and other sordid acts, but you won't say you're anti-Muslim either because this will align you with the Conservatives. So you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, and the only way out was to retreat into some obscure position like 'intolerance of intolerance.' But that got you caught out too. You could not even hold up your own mantra, you showed you were intolerant toward others. So we are back to here, your last resort, abuse.

All in all, you are a thoroughly intellectually deficient individual. You're big on 'moral positions' but retardant on logic. What you lack in intellect you try and make up for in 'moral superiority.'

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Reply #160 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:51pm

... wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

Those racist pig sphincters look just like anyone else. Everytime you go out you see some. There might be one in the house flat hovel with you right now.....

da dahhhhh

dadaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Funny thing is he admitted earlier that we were talking about religion, not race. But he's none too bright ol' Git, he forgets things not long after he says them.

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Reply #161 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:54pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

well pretty much no one takes Gist seriously. he is like skippy. he abuses and... well thats it. his are the posts you just skip over to find the valuable ones.

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Reply #162 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:55pm

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

Gist Racist trolls are still trolls.

The mist is too thin to veil the intent and the inscrutable philosophy hides the intent no better.

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Reply #163 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:55pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

You're back to the abuse again. I must have touched a nerve again.

See, I know what's really going on here. You won't say you're pro-Muslim because this will align you with stoning women to death for adultery and other sordid acts, but you won't say you're anti-Muslim either because this will align you with the Conservatives. So you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, and the only way out was to retreat into some obscure position like 'intolerance of intolerance.' But that got you caught out too. You could not even hold up your own mantra, you showed you were intolerant toward others. So we are back to here, your last resort, abuse.

All in all, you are a thoroughly intellectually deficient individual. You're big on 'moral positions' but retardant on logic. What you lack in intellect you try and make up for in 'moral superiority.'

like greens_win he is an epic fail with every post but without the entertainment value of the former.

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Reply #164 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

You might be tolerant toward yourself, but not me. Therefore you broke the cardinal rule you set down for yourself.

And my problem with that should be what?

If you want to have consistency in your position then that is your problem. Having contradictory positions leads to not being taken very seriously.

Not being taken seriously by racist pig sphincters? Do you really imagine that I lay awake at night worrying about what they think of me?

Gist Racist trolls are still trolls.

The mist is too thin to veil the intent and the inscrutable philosophy hides the intent no better.

A sad comment in recent decades is when people can not argue or defend their view then they shout "Racist!" at the other person,.,

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