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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #180 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:35pm Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm: I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you? Do you dislike people who dislike scientologists? Dislike those who dislike nazis? Go on, be consistent.
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Reply #181 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 5:09pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you?

Do you dislike people who dislike scientologists? Dislike those who dislike nazis?

Go on, be consistent.

Why do you think I would feel the need to be constrained by YOUR pathetic notions of right, wrong and outlandish? I'll dislike who I decide to dislike ta very much.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #183 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 5:20pm JC Denton wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 5:17pm: some of my best friends are nazis Then you better not tell 'em you're jewish.
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Reply #184 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

Gist wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you?

Do you dislike people who dislike scientologists? Dislike those who dislike nazis?

Go on, be consistent.

Why do you think I would feel the need to be constrained by YOUR pathetic notions of right, wrong and outlandish? I'll dislike who I decide to dislike ta very much.

Great.
SO don't kvetch when others dislike your pets.

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Reply #185 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:26pm:

No. But that doesn't answer the question. I'll ask again, for the third time, are you pro-Muslim?

Is that relivant? Do you need to be pro any group in order to be anti discriminating against them?

Well, you do to an extent. Multiculturalism tolerates or celebrates, depending on which way you look at it, different cultures. Therefore, you have to be pro-Muslim enough to allow it to exist. If you're indifferent, like our friend Git here has just confessed, then it shouldn't matter to him how they're viewed.

At one time people in Australia expected anyone to get a fair go. This is irrespective of if you agree with them or not.

You do not need to be pro anything in order to expect people who are to be treated in a reasonable manner.

Dnarever,

Your statement ASSUMES that we are dealing with reasonable people.

In this world we can't always assume that all 'people', are in fact reasonable people.

For example;
I expect a normal and reasonable society to imprison murders.

That is only reasonable, imo [....so as to protect the non-murderers in society].

And what should we do, with wanna-be murderers ???

I don't want such people, anywhere near me, or near the people that i love.

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HOW DO MOSLEMS BEHAVE ?

WHAT DO MOSLEMS BELIEVE ?

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.

IMAGE...

London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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Reply #186 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:50pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

It's very telling that a simple question devoid of any ad hominem sends you into a rage. I've hit a nerve here.

That aside, if you're neither anti or pro Muslim, then your position is one of indifference. Then why would you get angry at those who dislike Muslims?

A rage? Hardly! Grin

Not even close on that one.

OK, just for you, sans any ad-hom so you'll feel warm and safe:

Pro or anti muslim does not equate to indifference. The issue is intolerance, not religion or race for that matter. I am intolerant of intolerance. That means I dislike people who dislike muslims. Is that clear enough for you?

Your 'intolerance of intolerance' doesn't really work. Otherwise, you'd be intolerant of your own intolerance toward me. So we are back to square one: If you're defending them you must be doing so on some grounds.

Hence, there must be something about them that's worth defending.

Exactly so, Mist !!

Mist consider;
Is the reason that many 'liberals' are pro-ISLAM, precisely because ISLAM has demonstrated itself to be is so rabidly anti Western, anti Christian, and anti Jewish ???

Muslim Cleric Wants to Destroy Christianity

http://guardianlv.com/2012/07/muslim-cleric-wants-to-destroy-christianity/

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Reply #187 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:23am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

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In the Koran, Mohammed has equal standing with Allah.

Read the Koran, it is all in there!!

In the xtian bible jesus has equal standing with "god".

Read the bible its all in there!

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All Mohammedans are idolaters, and they can't even see it !!!
Grin Grin Grin

All xtians are idolaters because the catholics worship mary statues. Go figger!

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ISLAM, monotheistic ???

LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL !!!!!

Not that anyone said it wasnt? But anyway xtians have big daddy junior and the spook. 3 gods.

Yadda your fonts need to be bigger and add some red in there for some real troll art.

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Here you go yadda

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #188 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:30am Proof anti welfare policies are founded is racism and bigotry/
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #189 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:47am Time for the Corporate maggot to start feeding the slums.....
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Reply #190 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 2:51pm

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yadda wrote
Mist consider;
Is the reason that many 'liberals' are pro-ISLAM, precisely because ISLAM has demonstrated itself to be is so rabidly anti Western, anti Christian, and anti Jewish ???

I think it's only the case with some. Some are driven by a hatred and want the West dead, so they side with Islam - 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' and all that.

I think, though, that with most it's naivety, misdirected anger, and also purely reactionary.

Take our friend Git here. He was so quick to not align himself with anything to do with the Conservatives, that he then unknowingly aligned himself with Islam. To be honest, I don't think Git really prefers Islam over our Conservatives, he was just not thinking his position through to its consequences. It was a reactionary and flippant response devoid of any cognition.

With others I think there's a naivety involved where they think 'the grass is greener on the other side.' They seem to think it's bad here and that if we just act like the 'peaceful Muslims' we'll be a 'good people.' These characters just need some worldly experience.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26500 Australia	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #191 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 3:12pm Seems to me its the liberals that are the most racist and bigoted and anti-anything but xtianity.' SOB
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #192 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:03pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 3:12pm: Seems to me its the liberals that are the most racist and bigoted and anti-anything but xtianity.' SOB Is that the political 'Liberal Party' or the sociological 'liberal' (lefty) stance???
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Reply #193 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:12pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Seems to me its the liberals that are the most racist and bigoted and anti-anything but xtianity.'

SOB

Is that the political 'Liberal Party' or the sociological 'liberal' (lefty) stance???

Hahaha. Dick. Both. Both political parties are "right" so theres no "lefty". Whatever "right" is - it certainly isnt the same thing it was in menzies day.

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Reply #194 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:58pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Seems to me its the liberals that are the most racist and bigoted and anti-anything but xtianity.'

SOB

The Liberal (capital L) supporters (not the the Liberal politicians) seem the most racist and bigoted because they're the most honest. It's straight up, in your face, easy to see, easy to recognize. The converse crowd, however, are dishonest; they hide their judgements behind cozy slogans like 'tolerance,' 'equality,' and 'egalitarianism.' Question the 'humanitarian' brigade enough and out will come a mountain of judgements, a pile of enemies, a list of opponents waiting for their wrath to be lumped upon.

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