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Reply #360 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 8:15pm:
Gist wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 6:21pm:
Until then I demand that we do exactly what we said we would do - accept refugees in a humane manner.





You enter the country on a 6 moths visitor's visa and claim asylum immediately - and you will never be detained, even for a minute.

See?

People we allow into the county are treated supremely humanely. It's the undocumented queue jumpers, shady, shifty types that are detained. And that only because we do not know who the bugger they are.

Capisce, Gino? Slowly, sound it out - enter Australia legally and you will not be detained. Howzat?? You must be astonished.







Gentlemen gentlemen... Roll Eyes  please--

you need to remember that there is no way to stop /turn back the boats...look at the last few weeks... this is but a trickle compared to what is to come.

You seem awfully ignorant of human drives , adaptability  and determination.
This puny crap about off-shore processing is a joke.  Isn't it? wherever it was How could the numbers just arriving lately be managed.???

Not viable... unworkable...time to look at the real thing.

Forget the red herrings....  'cos we got a plague of increasing proportions to deal with.
All ideas espoused by populist media and the pollies are doomed to failure. 
Overseas processing... what a pathetic offering to the  fearful Oz public.

Its an unworkable scam, and time LABOR faced these facts.



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Reply #361 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:27pm
 
Emma wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 2:32am:
well excuse you Yadda....
religion rears its UGLY head yet again

infidel shmimfidel ...who gives a sweet FA about that.. really..... only the nutters of the world.
and so sad... the world is full of you and yours..... oh wouldnt it be a better place by far if you just weren't around to fester  and foster the hatred and resultant violence of religious frikkin dogma.

YES  - it would be a MUCH BETTER PLACE.



If you continue to allow in these boat unwanteds then your Christian country will be no more quickly I can assure you.
You are fools to let this sort in.

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Reply #362 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:41pm
 
Av dear.. I don't think the solutions you claim work for Israel are applicable here.

We are the largest populated continent with a single governing principle.
Further we are an immense island. How can you even suggest such an impossibility.

I don't see huge partitioning concrete walls and gun emplacements aimed at small entry points as having a useful purpose in Australia.

Unless you really want to push the 'camp' solution. Sad.  AND it still wouldn't work.!

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Reply #363 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:06pm
 
Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
Gentlemen gentlemen... Roll Eyes  please--

you need to remember that there is no way to stop /turn back the boats...look at the last few weeks... this is but a trickle compared to what is to come.

You seem awfully ignorant of human drives , adaptability  and determination.
This puny crap about off-shore processing is a joke.  Isn't it? wherever it was How could the numbers just arriving lately be managed.???

Not viable... unworkable...time to look at the real thing.

Forget the red herrings....  'cos we got a plague of increasing proportions to deal with.
All ideas espoused by populist media and the pollies are doomed to failure. 
Overseas processing... what a pathetic offering to the  fearful Oz public.

Its an unworkable scam, and time LABOR faced these facts.



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Ah, the insane demographic. I was wondering when we'll hear from you - and here you are!

Your post? Complete bollocks from beginning to end. If a country can't secure its frontiers, it's not a country. And you, predictably, give up Australian sovereignty (control of frontiers) at the first opportunity. You and your ilk keep the Australian cultural smacking cringe alive and well, even as it wants to die.

You can't wait to surrender to your inferiors because your guilt about your forebears who dared to say that the Abos were primitive. SO now you will let in all other primitives by way of atonement.  That's cultural smacking cringe on stilts, with cherry on top. That's Cultural smacking Cringe Royale.
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Reply #364 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:14pm
 
Jalane - Australia can take some action along what I say.

Yes you do not have luxury of building wall and forward checkpoints but also you do not have to live next to Arabs so there is good and bad!

But what about non processing.

Israel refuses to process ALL refugees who have not proved they have not passed through third country.
This is against UN rules on Convention but state of Israel informed UN it had no intention of following this rule.

So

Why does Australia not say to UN it will ignore the Convention and it will refuse to process any boat people at all.
You can either send them back or you lock them up indefinitely?

Then you watch the boats stop.
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Reply #365 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:22pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:06pm:
Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
Gentlemen gentlemen... Roll Eyes  please--

you need to remember that there is no way to stop /turn back the boats...look at the last few weeks... this is but a trickle compared to what is to come.

You seem awfully ignorant of human drives , adaptability  and determination.
This puny crap about off-shore processing is a joke.  Isn't it? wherever it was How could the numbers just arriving lately be managed.???

Not viable... unworkable...time to look at the real thing.

Forget the red herrings....  'cos we got a plague of increasing proportions to deal with.
All ideas espoused by populist media and the pollies are doomed to failure. 
Overseas processing... what a pathetic offering to the  fearful Oz public.

Its an unworkable scam, and time LABOR faced these facts.



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Ah, the insane demographic. I was wondering when we'll hear from you - and here you are!

Your post? Complete bollocks from beginning to end. If a country can't secure its frontiers, it's not a country. And you, predictably, give up Australian sovereignty (control of frontiers) at the first opportunity. You and your ilk keep the Australian cultural smacking cringe alive and well, even as it wants to die.

You can't wait to surrender to your inferiors because your guilt about your forebears who dared to say that the Abos were primitive. SO now you will let in all other primitives by way of atonement.  That's cultural smacking cringe on stilts, with cherry on top. That's Cultural smacking Cringe Royale.
Mate.



Yeah, we let you lot in because we were up for some culture. How did we get conned into that?

Lucky we woke up to ourselves. Now you're on the same par as any chow or boong.

I hope you feel comforted.
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Reply #366 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:24pm
 
thanks fellas. 
both interesting replies.

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Reply #367 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:31pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:22pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:06pm:
Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
Gentlemen gentlemen... Roll Eyes  please--

you need to remember that there is no way to stop /turn back the boats...look at the last few weeks... this is but a trickle compared to what is to come.

You seem awfully ignorant of human drives , adaptability  and determination.
This puny crap about off-shore processing is a joke.  Isn't it? wherever it was How could the numbers just arriving lately be managed.???

Not viable... unworkable...time to look at the real thing.

Forget the red herrings....  'cos we got a plague of increasing proportions to deal with.
All ideas espoused by populist media and the pollies are doomed to failure. 
Overseas processing... what a pathetic offering to the  fearful Oz public.

Its an unworkable scam, and time LABOR faced these facts.



Sad

Ah, the insane demographic. I was wondering when we'll hear from you - and here you are!

Your post? Complete bollocks from beginning to end. If a country can't secure its frontiers, it's not a country. And you, predictably, give up Australian sovereignty (control of frontiers) at the first opportunity. You and your ilk keep the Australian cultural smacking cringe alive and well, even as it wants to die.

You can't wait to surrender to your inferiors because your guilt about your forebears who dared to say that the Abos were primitive. SO now you will let in all other primitives by way of atonement.  That's cultural smacking cringe on stilts, with cherry on top. That's Cultural smacking Cringe Royale.
Mate.



Yeah, we let you lot in because we were up for some culture. How did we get conned into that?

Lucky we woke up to ourselves. Now you're on the same par as any chow or boong.

I hope you feel comforted.



No. I am not contemptuous of Australia like you are.

Anyway, the jig is up (has been for ages): being a Paki Bvgger, you parade your contempt for everything else as a matter of covering up policy.

There IS something wrong wiv it, yeah?




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Reply #368 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:55pm
 
long live Australia ...in all her multi-cultural glory.

Gotta give it our best ..people.!!!
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Reply #369 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:58pm
 
Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:55pm:
long live Australia ...in all her multi-cultural glory.

Gotta give it our best ..people.!!!


You are crazy.
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Reply #370 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:25pm
 
you think?

who isn't?

you I suppose.!! Roll Eyes

Tell me how would you NOT process these arrivals.??  Hmmm?


Hold them off with machine-gun fire and small anti-personnel weapons until they're dead or out of range??
Or else what???
You'd ???????
what???

sink them outside Oz waters.???

Send drones.????
You tell me Avram the Wise........ how would you refuse to  'process'   (a filthy word) these people.??
  Ideas ?  at all?
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Reply #371 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:35pm
 
Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:25pm:
you think?

who isn't?

you I suppose.!! Roll Eyes

Tell me how would you NOT process these arrivals.??  Hmmm?


Hold them off with machine-gun fire and small anti-personnel weapons until they're dead or out of range??
Or else what???
You'd ???????
what???

sink them outside Oz waters.???

Send drones.????
You tell me Avram the Wise........ how would you refuse to  'process'   (a filthy word) these people.??
  Ideas ?  at all?

I would instruct our defense force to do their job and defend the Australian people and our territory....that is all.... Smiley
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Reply #372 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:47pm
 
I've just thought of one 'solution'...which should go down real well with lots of you.

Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, and any other interested nation seeking to solve their refugee problem ... get together and buy up all large vessels about to be de-commisioned...be they ore or oil carriers, bulk cargo ships, old Cruise liners, general cargo or fishing vessels.

These vessels are welded together with steel bracing and trusses  so that the mass conglomerate is stable and seaworthy. 

This massive steel  contstruction is then moved to the biggest man-made island in the world,... that huge mass of garbage that has formed an island, the largest man-made island in the world,  ... in the middle of the Pacific.  Its sitting there growing daily, and so all unwanted arrivals, by whatever means,,, but particularly for those who thing they are especially deserving of denial, boat arrivals,  ... are deposited onto this massive steel construct in the middle of the island of garbage and left to fend for themselves. 

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Reply #373 - Jul 21st, 2012 at 12:03am
 
Using our defense forces for any purpose other than protecting the Australian people and defending our territorial and economic interests is dangerously wrong headed thinking.... Cool
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Reply #374 - Jul 21st, 2012 at 12:07am
 
Its not the role of our defense forces to be a shuttle service for people illegally migrating to our lands, its not the role of our defense forces to interfere in internal disputes in sovereign nations, its not their role to mentor other countries defense forces...it is our defense forces role to protect and defend Australia and its people...that is all - no ifs, no buts.... Roll Eyes
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