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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #450 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:32pm I can happily change my words to Australia is a country of Christian people and traditions if you feel better. Australia is Israel's friend and ally.
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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #451 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:29pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:22pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:16pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:14pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 9:27pm:

If you continue to allow in these boat unwanteds then your Christian country will be no more quickly I can assure you.
You are fools to let this sort in.

Australia is a secular state.

You're in no position to be calling anyone a fool.

Nope, Australia is a sovereign constitutional nation with borders, law and government and citizens entitled to freedom and protection much as you wish it were not so. Roll Eyes

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Buy a dictionary bud.

Australia is a secular state.

LOL

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that you don't even know what that means.

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Nope, last time I read the word secular is not written anywhere in our constitution - we are a constitutional nation with borders, laws and sovereign inviolable rights you can never deny. Roll Eyes

LOL

There have been some morons in this forum, but nobody even comes close to you. You are in a league all of your own.

The word "secular" does not have to be in a nation's constitution in order for it to be a secular state.

Try this genius: look for the term "Prime Minister" in the constitution and let me know how you go.

Have a look at section 116 while you're looking for "Prime Minister" :

"The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth." s116

As I said - no word about secular anywhere - this is interpreted clearly - that you may not pass laws restricting peoples religious freedoms - ergo forcing priests to divulge the confessional or to recognize same sex marriage. Tongue

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #452 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:11pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:02pm:

How many years have you served in the armed forces?
You call me a coward?
Where I was posted you would wet your underpants after one day.

"armed forces" Coward.

You think cowards serve in the west bank and cast lead?
You have no idea.

I think cowards arm themselves and fight in packs.

"armed forces" = cowards.

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Reply #453 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:37pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm:

As I said - no word about secular anywhere - this is interpreted clearly - that you may not pass laws restricting peoples religious freedoms - ergo forcing priests to divulge the confessional or to recognize same sex marriage. Tongue

You are clearly insane, but I'll ignore that for now.

There is no mention of the "office of Prime Minister" in the Australian Constitution. How does this make you feel? Do you recognise the office of PM or not?

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #454 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:40pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:11pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:02pm:

How many years have you served in the armed forces?
You call me a coward?
Where I was posted you would wet your underpants after one day.

"armed forces" Coward.

You think cowards serve in the west bank and cast lead?
You have no idea.

I think cowards arm themselves and fight in packs.

"armed forces" = cowards.

You have no idea. There is just 4 of us in a checkpoint unit surrounded by armed aggressors.
You don't know anything because you sit the other side of the world and you defend all type of scum who turn up pretending to be refugees.

And idiots like you feel bad and let them in to build their ghettos.

You will regret your foolish ways. Years in future when I am happy back in Haifa, you will have problems with these cushi that you said should come in!

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #455 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:43pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:40pm: You have no idea. There is just 4 of us in a checkpoint unit surrounded by armed aggressors. Oh FFS, grow up. "They started it" is a pathetic argument. You fight in packs and you arm yourself with guns. Coward, pure and simple.
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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #456 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:45pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:43pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:40pm:

You have no idea. There is just 4 of us in a checkpoint unit surrounded by armed aggressors.

Oh FFS, grow up.

"They started it" is a pathetic argument.

You fight in packs and you arm yourself with guns. Coward, pure and simple.

My country is attacked every day by aggressors.
We are not a soft people.

You have no idea how it is to be Israeli.

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #457 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:47pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:41am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:49am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:36am:

you ever wonder why everyone wants to blow your country up?

Because we are not soft and will respond to aggression and they do not like it.

However may i also remind you that our policy on refugees works.

We take a quote of non-Jews each year which is flew in by plane. No processing at the border and no asylum claims.

they are soft? and you're tough? .... I'd like to see how tough you were without the US backing you .. must be nice being so tough when the US gives you the latest and greatest toys, knowing they can never match the weaponry you are given..... I'd bet if it was reversed you wouldn't be so tough ... and you'd probably be pleading for asylum yourselfd ....

You have no idea or understanding of the regional situation so you are better staying with subjects you may understand.

Australia can take much stronger action that it does.

Tell me - why did your Government put Christmas Island back in the migration zone?
That makes more boats come.

It is much easier to get there than Australia itself.

You know you must make it as hard as possible to come - then you make less come.

yes ... you don't like the topic so you change it ... like I've said before you're a coward.

How many years have you served in the armed forces?
You call me a coward?
Where I was posted you would wet your underpants after one day.

Nobody cares avram. So you had a gun.

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Reply #458 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:48pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:11pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:02pm:

How many years have you served in the armed forces?
You call me a coward?
Where I was posted you would wet your underpants after one day.

"armed forces" Coward.

You think cowards serve in the west bank and cast lead?
You have no idea.

You are very brave with your guns shooting unarmed families and bombing with a plane.

SOB

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #459 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:48pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:43pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:40pm:

You have no idea. There is just 4 of us in a checkpoint unit surrounded by armed aggressors.

Oh FFS, grow up.

"They started it" is a pathetic argument.

You fight in packs and you arm yourself with guns. Coward, pure and simple.

My country is attacked every day by aggressors.
We are not a soft people.

You have no idea how it is to be Israeli.

Fighting in packs, armed with guns = coward.

Doesn't matter what country, it's still cowardly.

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Reply #460 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:49pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:37pm:

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You are clearly insane, but I'll ignore that for now.

There is no mention of the "office of Prime Minister" in the Australian Constitution. How does this make you feel? Do you recognise the office of PM or not?

You are clearly a lunatic - everybody knows our laws are founded on the religious freedom of the church Of England, the word secular and atheist is unknown to our law. The state cannot pass laws restricting religious freedom under the clear meaning of our constitution, you need to accept this - I demand you accept this or leave our country....

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1. FIRST, We have granted to God, and by this our present Charter have confirmed, for Us and our Heirs for ever, that the Church of England shall be free, and shall have all her whole Rights and Liberties inviolable. We have granted also, and given to all the Freemen of our Realm, for Us and our Heirs for ever, these Liberties under-written, to have and to hold to them and their Heirs, of Us and our Heirs for ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta#Clauses_still_in_force_today

As I said - no word about secular anywhere - this is interpreted clearly - that you may not pass laws restricting peoples religious freedoms - ergo forcing priests to divulge the confessional or to recognize same sex marriage. Tongue

Now I can tell you are ideologically driven and constitutionally illiterate - you are also a moron, stop making a fool of yourself with your racist corporate apartheid crap and shut up... Tongue

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #461 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:51pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:37pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm:

You are clearly a lunatic - everybody knows our laws are founded on the religious freedom of the church Of England, the word secular and atheist is unknown to our law. The state cannot pass laws restricting religious freedom under the clear meaning of our constitution, you need to accept this - I demand you accept this or leave our country....

Quote:

1. FIRST, We have granted to God, and by this our present Charter have confirmed, for Us and our Heirs for ever, that the Church of England shall be free, and shall have all her whole Rights and Liberties inviolable. We have granted also, and given to all the Freemen of our Realm, for Us and our Heirs for ever, these Liberties under-written, to have and to hold to them and their Heirs, of Us and our Heirs for ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta#Clauses_still_in_force_today

As I said - no word about secular anywhere - this is interpreted clearly - that you may not pass laws restricting peoples religious freedoms - ergo forcing priests to divulge the confessional or to recognize same sex marriage. Tongue

You are clearly insane, but I'll ignore that for now.

There is no mention of the "office of Prime Minister" in the Australian Constitution. How does this make you feel? Do you recognise the office of PM or not?

Now I can tell you are ideologically driven and constitutionally illiterate - you are also a moron, stop making a fool of yourself with your racist corporate apartheid crap and shut up... Tongue

Was the question too hard for you?

The PM is not mentioned in the Constitution - how does this make you feel?

And how does it make you feel that you didn't even know that fact before I mentioned it? Embarrassed?

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Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post.
Reply #462 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:55pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:41am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:49am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:36am:

you ever wonder why everyone wants to blow your country up?

Because we are not soft and will respond to aggression and they do not like it.

However may i also remind you that our policy on refugees works.

We take a quote of non-Jews each year which is flew in by plane. No processing at the border and no asylum claims.

they are soft? and you're tough? .... I'd like to see how tough you were without the US backing you .. must be nice being so tough when the US gives you the latest and greatest toys, knowing they can never match the weaponry you are given..... I'd bet if it was reversed you wouldn't be so tough ... and you'd probably be pleading for asylum yourselfd ....

You have no idea or understanding of the regional situation so you are better staying with subjects you may understand.

Australia can take much stronger action that it does.

Tell me - why did your Government put Christmas Island back in the migration zone?
That makes more boats come.

It is much easier to get there than Australia itself.

You know you must make it as hard as possible to come - then you make less come.

yes ... you don't like the topic so you change it ... like I've said before you're a coward.

How many years have you served in the armed forces?
You call me a coward?
Where I was posted you would wet your underpants after one day.

Nobody cares avram.

So you had a gun.

SOB

SPOT,

Not so.

Lots of people do care - that Mohammedans attack Israel, and attack the Jewish people, daily.

It is just you SPOT, and people like you who do not care.

People who do not have a care.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95295 Gender:	Re: Asylum seekers, an argument too good not to post. Reply #463 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:58pm Exactly, Yadda. We care. We don't appreciate people blowing other people up.
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Reply #464 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:58pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:51pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:37pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 6:34pm:

You are clearly a lunatic - everybody knows our laws are founded on the religious freedom of the church Of England, the word secular and atheist is unknown to our law. The state cannot pass laws restricting religious freedom under the clear meaning of our constitution, you need to accept this - I demand you accept this or leave our country....

Quote:

1. FIRST, We have granted to God, and by this our present Charter have confirmed, for Us and our Heirs for ever, that the Church of England shall be free, and shall have all her whole Rights and Liberties inviolable. We have granted also, and given to all the Freemen of our Realm, for Us and our Heirs for ever, these Liberties under-written, to have and to hold to them and their Heirs, of Us and our Heirs for ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta#Clauses_still_in_force_today

As I said - no word about secular anywhere - this is interpreted clearly - that you may not pass laws restricting peoples religious freedoms - ergo forcing priests to divulge the confessional or to recognize same sex marriage. Tongue

You are clearly insane, but I'll ignore that for now.

There is no mention of the "office of Prime Minister" in the Australian Constitution. How does this make you feel? Do you recognise the office of PM or not?

Now I can tell you are ideologically driven and constitutionally illiterate - you are also a moron, stop making a fool of yourself with your racist corporate apartheid crap and shut up... Tongue

Was the question too hard for you?

The PM is not mentioned in the Constitution - how does this make you feel?

And how does it make you feel that you didn't even know that fact before I mentioned it? Embarrassed?

You are constitutionally illiterate on the foundations of our law, constitution and Government and I cant help you with that. Rest assured our constitution is water tight and you are an idiot. Grin

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