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Reply #975 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 9:00am

Emma wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

I said the 'freakin' UNoppressed OK..??
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I know, I know, it's my fault that illiterate pashtun goatherds are sh!tting on each other's plates, as FD so vividly puts it.

Afghans are not responsible for Afghanistan, Iranians for Iran, Pakistanis for Pakistan, etc. It's all my fault.

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The blame of those ye better, The hate of those ye guard--

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Reply #976 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 1:13pm

Soren wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 9:19pm:

We have more than enough out of work goatherds.

They aren't being admitted (if at all) because of any perceived need or lack of it of goatherds but because they are applying for Asylum because they are in fear of persecution. Forgotten that's the point of the UN Convention? To ensure that those in need of mercy aren't turned away like the Jews were during the Holocaust?

Raises a question, would you turn away the victims of Genocide? I suspect so. Grin

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Reply #977 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 1:20pm

bump. Anyone willing to answer the question? Or are you local bigots unable to?

|dev|null wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

So, again returning to the original topic of the thread for a second time as neither Grendel or Soren have answered my question. What "Australian values" are being displayed when we duck out of our responsibilities under the UN Convention on Refugees, punish Asylum Seekers for asking Asylum and create disincentives to stop them doing so?

Grendel? Soren? Any attempt to actually answer the question? Cheesy

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96369	Re: Australian "values" Reply #978 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:15pm Soren wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 10:14pm: But sh!tting on each other's plates is all they know and that's what they will continue to do when we are gone. That's true, old chap, but it's jolly good for business, no? Miam miam.
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Reply #979 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:27pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:25am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 9:46pm:

Article 31 of the Convention states:
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The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their

illegal entry

or presence.

Of course ILLEGAL ENTRY etc is mentioned several times in Article 31... you failed to quote it all.
So I guess they are after all ILLEGAL ENTRANTS after all eh...

Squirm, squirm, twist, twist, another foot with a hole shot in it. Grin

They are not, under Australian law illegal immigrants until their application for Asylum are denied. That you need to be taken through the legal process...again...simply shows that you are prejudiced to understand how it works...again. Cheesy

Failed English at school did you?
I didn't. Grin

Failed Law at Uni did you?
I never tried but I understand it better than you. Under Australian Law they are not illegal immigrants. The Convention refers to their method of entry, not their legal status. Two different things. Cheesy

Never failed anything at school actually... came Dux in a few subjects though, English being one of them, Engineering Science another etc, etc, etc...

I know full well what the Convention says and what it means... YOU apparently are in denial still. Cheesy

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Australian "values" Reply #980 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:43pm yawn once again, and for the last time.. you morons show quite well what Aus values mean. Sad to say. Apologies to those who actually do hold to some values..
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australian "values" Reply #981 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:37am LOL... why do you even bother... the fact you agree with Jnr says it all... the fact he accepts your imprimatur is just The bwaintwust is soooo desperate for approval
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Reply #982 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:07am

Bump again, as neither Grendel or Soren appear either able to read or are just unwilling to answer the question. I wonder why? Cheesy

|dev|null wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:

bump. Anyone willing to answer the question? Or are you local bigots unable to?

|dev|null wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

So, again returning to the original topic of the thread for a second time as neither Grendel or Soren have answered my question. What "Australian values" are being displayed when we duck out of our responsibilities under the UN Convention on Refugees, punish Asylum Seekers for asking Asylum and create disincentives to stop them doing so?

Grendel? Soren? Any attempt to actually answer the question? Cheesy

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australian "values" Reply #983 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm Already addressed it moron... what are you stupid? BTW that was rhetorical
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Reply #984 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Already addressed it moron... what are you stupid?
BTW that was rhetorical Grin

not to the satisfaction of anybody who wants a plain answer as to what "values" you think are being displayed. Try again. Oh, and answering with your usual silly picture will merely confirm your status as a troll. Grin

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Reply #985 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Already addressed it moron... what are you stupid?
BTW that was rhetorical Grin

not to the satisfaction of anybody who wants a plain answer as to what "values" you think are being displayed. Try again. Oh, and answering with your usual silly picture will merely confirm your status as a troll. Grin

Not being easily duped by BS.
A great Aussie value.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139030 Gender:	Re: Australian "values" Reply #986 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:16pm Grendel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm: Already addressed it moron... Nope. Still waiting.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australian "values" Reply #987 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:16pm: Grendel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm: Already addressed it moron... Nope. Still waiting. Yep... really did. You should stop popping into topics and commenting without being there for the whole thing Gregg...
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Reply #988 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Bump again, as neither Grendel or Soren appear either able to read or are just unwilling to answer the question. I wonder why? Cheesy

|dev|null wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:

bump. Anyone willing to answer the question? Or are you local bigots unable to?

|dev|null wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

So, again returning to the original topic of the thread for a second time as neither Grendel or Soren have answered my question. What "Australian values" are being displayed when we duck out of our responsibilities under the UN Convention on Refugees, punish Asylum Seekers for asking Asylum and create disincentives to stop them doing so?

Grendel? Soren? Any attempt to actually answer the question? Cheesy

Your premise is shyt... no sane person wastes time trying to answer a premise made of shyt....
Why don't you go way back to my original question which you have still failed to answer satisfactorily and give me a satisfactory answer then eh Jnr?
What makes you think any single government policy or decision reflects "Australian values", certainly the LW luvvies have made enough over the years that the majority of Australians never agreed with.
When were we ever asked about Multiculti for example, neither side of politics have had the courage to put that to a referendum now have they?
You want answers? odd I thought you said you were just here to troll and mock Cheesy

Seems you fail at everything you attempt. Roll Eyes

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Reply #989 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 10:59pm

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Already addressed it moron... what are you stupid?
BTW that was rhetorical Grin

not to the satisfaction of anybody who wants a plain answer as to what "values" you think are being displayed. Try again. Oh, and answering with your usual silly picture will merely confirm your status as a troll. Grin

Not being easily duped by BS.
A great Aussie value.

What a pity the law does not agree with you, Soren. I haven't seen you demonstrate much in the way which wasn't bullshit. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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