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progressiveslol

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #120 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:38pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:24pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

Mate, last time I looked the real scientist were telling us the world is warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. When the science doesn't conform to your world view how about we call it pseudo science, I'm surprised you're not calling it witchcraft.

Yes pretty close to witchcraft with the magic numbers except magic you usually dont see it, but the manipulating of temperature data is easily seen now we know what we are looking at.

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #121 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 2:41pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

You mean the vested interests, like those backing the Heartland Institute? That would be the Koch brothers, who are big in the Energy game.

The Heartland Institute, who fund "spin campaigns", such as -
1) Stop Teaching Climate Change
2) There's not such thing as Climate Change
3) The Tea Party (US Ring Wing Political Party)
4) Peak Oil Doesn't exist

Real debate is something these sort of people have no interest in, their only interest is, "SELF INTEREST"!

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tonegunman1

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #122 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 3:39pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:24pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

Mate, last time I looked the real scientist were telling us the world is warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. When the science doesn't conform to your world view how about we call it pseudo science, I'm surprised you're not calling it witchcraft.

The world is warming...so what...
"Real scientist"...I'm still waiting for Jolly to name a single signatory with a degree in "climatology".
So last to you looked these climatologists...sorry scientists (I hope there not those ones that Jolly says just walked past a university to get their degrees) were telling us that the world was warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. So that is rejecting the null hypothesis to the .05 or .01 confidence level where we are responsible for 100% of this effect. Because you state this without reference to any other cause and nor apparently do your "real scientists".
Are you just being deliberately misleading?...because I think even perceptions will say that the earth is warming regardless.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake? Reply #123 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 3:45pm Didn't you people know? LIEBERALS WILL DECIDE WHAT REAL SCIENCE COMES INTO THIS COUNTRY AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH IT WILL COME! It's their answer to everything.
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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #124 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:32pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 2:41pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

You mean the vested interests, like those backing the Heartland Institute? That would be the Koch brothers, who are big in the Energy game.

The Heartland Institute, who fund "spin campaigns", such as -
1) Stop Teaching Climate Change
2) There's not such thing as Climate Change
3) The Tea Party (US Ring Wing Political Party)
4) Peak Oil Doesn't exist

Real debate is something these sort of people have no interest in, their only interest is, "SELF INTEREST"!

I would assume that someone like you with a bent to soress would understand.

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perceptions_now

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #125 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:47pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:32pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 2:41pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

You mean the vested interests, like those backing the Heartland Institute? That would be the Koch brothers, who are big in the Energy game.

The Heartland Institute, who fund "spin campaigns", such as -
1) Stop Teaching Climate Change
2) There's not such thing as Climate Change
3) The Tea Party (US Ring Wing Political Party)
4) Peak Oil Doesn't exist

Real debate is something these sort of people have no interest in, their only interest is, "SELF INTEREST"!

I would assume that someone like you with a bent to soress would understand.

Gee, you've got me there Progs, PLEASE EXPLAIN?

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MOTR

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #126 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 11:29pm

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 3:39pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:24pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

Mate, last time I looked the real scientist were telling us the world is warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. When the science doesn't conform to your world view how about we call it pseudo science, I'm surprised you're not calling it witchcraft.

The world is warming...so what...
"Real scientist"...I'm still waiting for Jolly to name a single signatory with a degree in "climatology".
So last to you looked these climatologists...sorry scientists (I hope there not those ones that Jolly says just walked past a university to get their degrees) were telling us that the world was warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. So that is rejecting the null hypothesis to the .05 or .01 confidence level where we are responsible for 100% of this effect. Because you state this without reference to any other cause and nor apparently do your "real scientists".
Are you just being deliberately misleading?...because I think even perceptions will say that the earth is warming regardless.

Can you clear up the syntax and try again. Are you saying warming has to be 100% anthropogenic to be attributable to us?

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tonegunman1

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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #127 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 11:29pm:

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 3:39pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:24pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 5:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Deniers are just the same fools that buy any old rubbish fed to them by the wealthy and powerful business lobby groups.
We see it time and time again and the only surprising thing is that in this day and age anyone could let themselves be so obviously manipulated.

AGW loons are exaclty like the doomsday cultists. The end of the world is nigh...... cookoo cookoo

Are you still going, progs? I wonder what your vested interest might be. Is it fear of facing your own gullibility or fear of facing reality.

Vested interest is real science, not pseudo science. Real debate, not gatekeeping and especially of all, no to socialists/marxists taking over an agenda and making it their own.

Mate, last time I looked the real scientist were telling us the world is warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. When the science doesn't conform to your world view how about we call it pseudo science, I'm surprised you're not calling it witchcraft.

The world is warming...so what...
"Real scientist"...I'm still waiting for Jolly to name a single signatory with a degree in "climatology".
So last to you looked these climatologists...sorry scientists (I hope there not those ones that Jolly says just walked past a university to get their degrees) were telling us that the world was warming and that with a high degree of certainty we are responsible. So that is rejecting the null hypothesis to the .05 or .01 confidence level where we are responsible for 100% of this effect. Because you state this without reference to any other cause and nor apparently do your "real scientists".
Are you just being deliberately misleading?...because I think even perceptions will say that the earth is warming regardless.

Can you clear up the syntax and try again. Are you saying warming has to be 100% anthropogenic to be attributable to us?

You say the world is in peril and the first thing out of you vacuous head is about syntax. Bravo.
Are you saying warming has to be 0% anthropogenic to be unattributable to us?
You make sweeping statements that you can't back up with anything of substance and instead you lapse into being the grammar police.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Online WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake? Reply #128 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 9:33am WTF id the problem here? Who cares who caused it Its happening and we need to try and fix it or we prolly wont survive. SOB
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake? Reply #129 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 9:36am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 9:33am: WTF id the problem here? Who cares who caused it Its happening and we need to try and fix it or we prolly wont survive. SOB Only when Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt says its ok
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Re: LNP loons want to burn science at the Stake?
Reply #130 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:26am

tonegunman1 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am: