After a period of relative quiet, Ku Klux Klan activity has spiked noticeably upwards in 2006, as Klan groups have attempted to exploit fears in America over gay marriage, perceived “assaults” on Christianity, crime and especially immigration.

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Well according to the criteria that started this thread i should now accuse you of defending the KKK.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18^th, 2012 at 10:23am:


Do you oppose the salvo's spot they are a christian group check out their website.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18^th, 2012 at 10:23am:


Do you oppose the salvo's spot they are a christian group check out their website.

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That is the extremists. Normal mainstream everyday muslims (especially in australia) are not a threat. They are in fact less of a threat than xtians or jews.

SOB

Extremists jailed for 'evil' terror plot
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December 16, 2011
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They are Islamic extremists who see the people of Australia as infidels and planned to become martyrs by shooting up a Sydney army base.

Wissam Mahmoud Fattal, 35, Saney Edow Aweys, 28, and Nayef El Sayed, 27, planned to kill as many people as possible in a mass shooting at Holsworthy Army base to advance the cause of Islam.

It was their way of repaying Australia - the country that had welcomed and nurtured them and their families.

On Friday, the three would-be terrorists remained defiant as Victorian Supreme Court Justice Betty King sentenced them to 18 years in prison.

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Lebanese-born Fattal, 35, was ejected from the court just as Justice King began her sentencing remarks.

He stood up and began ranting, "Why don't stop this corruption" and also spoke of Palestine and Afghanistan.

El Sayed, who was born in Australia to Lebanese parents, left his remarks to the end.

As he passed the judge's chair, he said, "Allah gives us justice, not these courts."

They were in no mood to take Justice King's advice and be remorseful for what they had done.

"The fact that Australia welcomed all of you and nurtured you and your families is something that should cause you all to hang your heads in shame that this was the way you planned to show your thanks for that support," she said.

"Your plans were evil. Your intentions, your plan were deadly serious. You intended to plan a random shooting of anyone you found on that army base, be it army personnel, civilian, male or female."

Justice King said it would have been a totally horrific event if their planning had ever come to pass.

She said all three showed no remorse and had not renounced their extremist beliefs.

Fattal was especially rigid in his beliefs, she said.

"The views you have adopted are clearly extremist views in terms of the interpretation of the Koran, including that all persons who are not Muslims and those persons who are Muslims but not practising faithfully, according to you, are people who are infidels," she said.

"You are an intolerant Muslim in that you believe everything has to be done in your way and no other."

During a three-month trial in 2010, the court heard the men wanted to advance Islam, which they believed was under attack from the West, including Australia.

Most of the prosecution case relied on transcripts of secretly recorded telephone conversations.

They picked up strong anti-Australian views, with Somalian-born Aweys even celebrating the death toll in the Black Saturday bushfires.

"These filthy people are coming down, the economy goes first, factories are shutting down, fire is coming and there is no water," he was recorded saying in March 2009.

Fattal was caught on security footage walking around the boundary of the Holsworthy barracks and spoke of winning paradise if he killed Australian soldiers.

"If I find way to kill the army, I swear to Allah the great I'm going to do it," Fattal told an undercover police officer.

The men were arrested in pre-dawn raids across Melbourne in August 2009.

Two other Melbourne men - Yacqub Khayre, 23, of Meadow Heights, and Abdirahman Mohamud Ahmed, 26, of Preston - were cleared by a jury over their alleged roles in the terror plot.

As the sentences were delivered on Friday, family members wailed in shock, including one woman who screamed, "Oh my God!" and covered her mouth.

Fattal, of Melbourne, Aweys, of Carlton, and El Sayed, of Glenroy, were all found guilty of conspiring to prepare for or plan a terrorist act between February and August 2009.

They were ordered to serve a non-parole period of 13 and a half years.

I have never said you should self-censor.

I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.

I havent "come to their defence" I have told you to stop using them as examples in discussions with me and trying to make me judge them when I dont know enough about those particular individual ppl to do so.

Spot, you forgetting what you have said yourself is not the same thing as me misrepresenting you. Your whole approach to this appears to be based on covering your eyes and ears whenever any evidence is presented to you so you can go on claiming ignorance and insisting that we must give them the benefit of the doubt because you don't know any better.

And yes in the past I have used this to justify their terrorists acts

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2012 at 10:51am:


You and sob support Islam

Google Saudi child brides
Google Yemeni child brides

I guess you follow the Islamic thought that i is not pedophilia if you marry a child.