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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #45 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:28pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
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Obviously what i mean was what i said if the media provokes them but targeting them all the time they will get angry wont they. Wouldn't you if you were being targeted all the time? the real extremists in other countries are becoming more extreme because their countries are occupied by foreign militaries. you would become more extreme too wouldn't you? Anyway we (as a country) are participating in poking them (figuratively).


But that's not all you said is it? You also said we should stop 'poking' them. You said we should self censor. Or is that 'twisting' your words? Are you taking that back now?


WTF are you talking about?

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #46 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 5:46pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
WTF are you talking about?


How many times to I have to quote you to get a straight answer spot? This is what I am talking about. Let me guess, next you will forget what the question was....

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I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.


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Why are you scared to answer that?


Puppet, it is not that I am afraid or unable to answer. Rather, it was not a question. Not that I would necessarily bother answering if you did manage to construct a question, but it would be a good start.
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #47 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 5:56pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 5:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
WTF are you talking about?


How many times to I have to quote you to get a straight answer spot? This is what I am talking about. Let me guess, next you will forget what the question was....

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I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.


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Why are you scared to answer that?


Puppet, it is not that I am afraid or unable to answer. Rather, it was not a question. Not that I would necessarily bother answering if you did manage to construct a question, but it would be a good start.


Gawd. I answered that more than once. You just scroll back and read. Comprehend. You seem to have problems with that. Interesting how you NEVER answer any questions though. You just keep quoting out of context and asking did you beat your wife type questions.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #48 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:01pm
 
You must be taking after Abu spot.

Deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect - I have answered that countless times already

Denying that you said it or pointing out that that particular quote mentioned the media is not the same as actually answering.

Do you think we should self censor when it comes to Islam in case we make Muslims angry? Why do you constantly point out the risk of making them angry?
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #49 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:03pm
 
Would you want Australia to have the right to defend itself if attacked?
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #50 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:05pm
 
LOL. Well done puppet, you made a question!
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #51 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:05pm:
LOL. Well done puppet, you made a question!

I had a question on the first page.
Grow some balls and face reality.
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #52 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:26pm
 
Me way back in the thread:
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Are you the media or a military? huh?

If you had something to actually say you wouldn't have to misrepresent and lie.


Meaning (which was obvious @ the outset) that i was talking about the media and the military.

I would think you were completely stupid except for the way you steadfastly manage to twist things and ask those did you beat your wife questions. You are an idiot and a troll  and a liar but not stupid. Perhaps you are a senile retired politician . . .

Me again way back in the thread:
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Obviously what i mean was what i said if the media provokes them but targeting them all the time they will get angry wont they. Wouldn't you if you were being targeted all the time? the real extremists in other countries are becoming more extreme because their countries are occupied by foreign militaries. you would become more extreme too wouldn't you? Anyway we (as a country) are participating in poking them (figuratively).


I never said anything about "self censorship" you lying liar. I was talking about this. I was saying the media should stop its fear campaign. You have whatever opinion you want but you are wrong so I correct you. All muslims are not terrorists. In fact mainstream are not terrorists.

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Why do you constantly point out the risk of making them angry?


I said it once (maybe twice) and you quoted it over and over. You are the one thats said it "countless times".

We (america uk and australia) are creating the terrorists.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #53 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:39pm
 
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Meaning (which was obvious @ the outset) that i was talking about the media and the military


To which I responded that you often make the same claim without limiting it to the media, and also pointed out that the exact same question applies to the media - should it really self censor? Do you think that individuals should not self censor? What do you direct all your complaints about making Muslims angry to us mere mortals rather than 'the media'?

I offered to dig up some more quotes where you made it a more general claim. Do I need to do that to get a straight answer? Or would it make no difference and you would find something else to deflect about?

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Obviously what i mean was what i said if the media provokes them but targeting them all the time they will get angry wont they. Wouldn't you if you were being targeted all the time? the real extremists in other countries are becoming more extreme because their countries are occupied by foreign militaries. you would become more extreme too wouldn't you? Anyway we (as a country) are participating in poking them (figuratively).


To which I also responded at the time. Repeating your comments that the debate makes Muslims angry without adding that we should self censor does not mean you did not previously say we should self censor. It just means you are making an intellectual retreat to stating the obvious, without having to balls to say what you think we should do about it.

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I never said anything about "self censorship" you lying liar.


Yes you did - in the quote I keep posting.

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You have whatever opinion you want but you are wrong so I correct you. All muslims are not terrorists.


Which would be perfectly reaosnable if I ever claimed that all Muslims are terrorists. Otherwise it is just another red herring.

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I said it once (maybe twice) and you quoted it over and over. You are the one thats said it "countless times".


I attempted to get a straight answer out of you countless times.

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We (america uk and australia) are creating the terrorists.


Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Should we self censor as a response?
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #54 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:51pm
 
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Should we self censor as a response?
Or perhaps stop blowing them up?
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #55 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 7:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
You must be taking after Abu spot.

Deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect - I have answered that countless times already

Denying that you said it or pointing out that that particular quote mentioned the media is not the same as actually answering.

Do you think we should self censor when it comes to Islam in case we make Muslims angry? Why do you constantly point out the risk of making them angry?


Who cares if Muslims are angry they are the most disorganized set of people in the world.
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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #56 - Jul 19th, 2012 at 7:35pm
 
Some recent posts from spot:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 6:05am:
The thing is though with all this fear campaign against the muslims isnt it like poking a hornets nest with a stick? Comon stop playing into it. the ppl that treat them like they are poo are the ones making them angry.
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 11:17am:
I suggest we leave them alone. Stop provoking them.. There arent enough here to cause problems even if they were inclined.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:05pm:
The extremists try to. And nobody has poked the KKK in a while. when they are poked they are pretty nasty.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:25am:
I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 9:18am:
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Think about what you are saying. Stop posting on autopilot. Maybe even try explaining why you think we should self censor in the face of extremism?


I have never said you should self-censor.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 9:18am:
I do however know about you. You are a liar. A misrepresenting liar. So i take anything you say about them with a grain of salt.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 1:07pm:
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I have never said you should self-censor.

You say it all the time spot.


Nope

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Why shouldn't I use them as examples? They are ideal examples because if you disagree with me you can ask them. We don't have to make do with a few selected media snippets of things they have said and it is much harder for you to stick your head in the sand and plead ignorance when it is right there in front of you.


For some reason you dont want to know what I am saying and are self censoring it in your head. Either that or you are lying.



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 8:25am:
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It's been the same question from the beginning Spot. Should we self censor in case we make Muslims angry? Are you saying the media alone should self censor? Why do you keep running from this simple question?


Obviously what i mean was what i said if the media provokes them but targeting them all the time they will get angry wont they. Wouldn't you if you were being targeted all the time?



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 8:25am:
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like the self censorship stuff.


No you said that. You misrepresent and quote out of context.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
I never said anything about "self censorship" you lying liar.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #57 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:45am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 11:03am:

PP this thread seems to be all about misrepresenting and quoting out of context.

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The nature of deception is that in a relationship involving an intentionally deceptive person and a truthful person, is that it is always easy for the deceiver to misrepresent themselves.

And even when they are 'found out', for them to then make false accusations.

And with those false accusations, force the 'other' to always defend their position.

Meanwhile the deceiver remains 'free' to continue to misrepresent and hide their own true position, and agenda.




Claims [accusations] are easy to defend to make, when the people who [claim that they] are being 'misrepresented' have a 'skill' in misrepresenting and hiding their own true positions, and agendas.

In any relationship involving an intentionally deceptive person and a truthful person, the truthful person can never win [or get ahead].

Such a relationship will always fail, in the end.

Such a relationship is like the nature of the circumstance of war [between two people].

It requires two [sincere] people with the same 'mind', to secure and maintain a peace.

But it only takes one person ['party'], to start a war [which necessarily involves the 2nd 'party'].





The lesson ?

Avoid relationships with those who are known to be liars [deceivers].




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John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #58 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 5:11am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 7:35pm:
Some recent posts from spot:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 6:05am:
The thing is though with all this fear campaign against the muslims isnt it like poking a hornets nest with a stick? Comon stop playing into it. the ppl that treat them like they are poo are the ones making them angry.
SOB


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 11:17am:
I suggest we leave them alone. Stop provoking them.. There arent enough here to cause problems even if they were inclined.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:05pm:
The extremists try to. And nobody has poked the KKK in a while. when they are poked they are pretty nasty.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:25am:
I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 9:18am:
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Think about what you are saying. Stop posting on autopilot. Maybe even try explaining why you think we should self censor in the face of extremism?


I have never said you should self-censor.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 9:18am:
I do however know about you. You are a liar. A misrepresenting liar. So i take anything you say about them with a grain of salt.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 1:07pm:
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I have never said you should self-censor.

You say it all the time spot.


Nope

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Why shouldn't I use them as examples? They are ideal examples because if you disagree with me you can ask them. We don't have to make do with a few selected media snippets of things they have said and it is much harder for you to stick your head in the sand and plead ignorance when it is right there in front of you.


For some reason you dont want to know what I am saying and are self censoring it in your head. Either that or you are lying.



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 8:25am:
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It's been the same question from the beginning Spot. Should we self censor in case we make Muslims angry? Are you saying the media alone should self censor? Why do you keep running from this simple question?


Obviously what i mean was what i said if the media provokes them but targeting them all the time they will get angry wont they. Wouldn't you if you were being targeted all the time?



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 8:25am:
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like the self censorship stuff.


No you said that. You misrepresent and quote out of context.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
I never said anything about "self censorship" you lying liar.




I didnt say in any of that anything about self censorship (even with your editing of the quotes). i have told you what I meant. I have clarified several times. You desperately want my words to mean something else but they dont. I have told you what I mean.

i couldn't be bothered checking all of them (you simply arent worth it) but heres one of the FULL quotes from above:

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I suggest we leave them alone. Stop provoking them.. There arent enough here to cause problems even if they were inclined. Quit interfering with them and their oil.


See how its about the media and the militaries not self censorship? Of course you do. You know full well what i am talking about but choose to be a troll.

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Reply #59 - Jul 20th, 2012 at 5:13am
 
Yadda you are talking about freediver. He never ever answers question and instead of answering throws accusations and misquotes. He wants to reinterpret things to mean what he wants them to mean. I doubt abu or falah have said the things he says they have.

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