Australian Politics Forum - Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49371
At my desk.

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #60 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 8:29am

Quote:

even with your editing of the quotes

I challenge you to find a single quote that was edited

Quote:

See how its about the media and the militaries not self censorship?

I don't see any reference to the media there. You used the term 'we', as in the members here on OzPolitic, in direct response to a question about what you think we, the members he on OzPolitic should do in response to all the BS coming from the Muslims here on OzPolitic. You did not bring the media into it until one of your most recent calls for self censorship in a different thread on a different board. I don't see any references to the media in that thread, but I do see clear references to what we are doing on this site.

Your reference to oil does imply the military, but was obviously not meant to be the same situation you were referring to with this:

Quote:

I suggest we leave them alone. Stop provoking them.. There arent enough here to cause problems even if they were inclined. Quit interfering with them and their oil.

Of course, this is still kind of beside the point. You have not clarified why you think the media should self censor and why there are different 'rules'. Do you really think that is a good idea? Would that not encourage for example the all the Muslims that called for the death, and actually tried to kill the Danish cartoonist?

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26513
Australia

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #61 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 8:38am

Quote:

I challenge you to find a single quote that was edited

I gave you one example in the previous post which you have ignored. Remember the oil?

Quote:

You used the term 'we', as in the members here on OzPolitic

No i used the term "we" as in the "west" - if i meant ppl on this forum i wouldn't have included myself now would i. Stop trying to redefine my statements. I clarified - you dont get to add meaning to my words.

Quote:

your most recent calls for self censorship

Liar. I have not called for self censorship

Quote:

why you think the media should self censor

Changing the goalposts now? Its not "self censoring" its "stopping the lies". How about just not running a fear campaign? Thats not self censorship.

You are a dishonest jerk

SOB

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49371 At my desk.	Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis? Reply #62 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 8:45am Quote: No i used the term "we" as in the "west" So the entire west should self censor? Quote: Changing the goalposts now? Its not "self censoring" its "stopping the lies". Would that include all the lies you accuse me of?
Back to top	People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words. IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis? Reply #63 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:05am freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 8:45am: Quote: No i used the term "we" as in the "west" So the entire west should self censor? Quote: Changing the goalposts now? Its not "self censoring" its "stopping the lies". Would that include all the lies you accuse me of? Oh gawd SOB
Back to top	Whaaaaaah! I'm a Moron! - edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope IP Logged

Yadda

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 21884
A cat with a view

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #64 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:52am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 5:13am:

Yadda you are talking about freediver. He never ever answers question and instead of answering throws accusations and misquotes. He wants to reinterpret things to mean what he wants them to mean. I doubt abu or falah have said the things he says they have.

SOB

No.

I think what FD wants is for persons like yourself, to state your position(s) definitively.

And not to make statements that are always ambiguous.

i.e.
So that later, you can claim that; "I never said that!"

Dictionary;
definite = =
1 clearly stated or decided; not vague or doubtful. certain or sure about something.
2 clearly true or real.
3 having exact and discernible physical limits.

Dictionary;
ambiguous = = (of language) having more than one meaning. unclear because not distinguishing between alternatives.

Back to top

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26513
Australia

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #65 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:57am

Quote:

I think what FD wants is for persons like yourself, to state your position(s) definitively.

Everything isnt black and white you know. There are shades of grey. However i have stated my positions he just doesnt like it and misquotes it trying to make it mean what he wants it to mean instead of what i have stated it means.

SOB

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49371
At my desk.

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #66 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:17pm

You have stated your opinion, then changed every one of them in the face of questioning, leaving people wondering whether you have any opinions at all, above the mindless platitudes like 'not all muslims are terrorists' or 'christians are worse than muslims' or 'all relgions are equally bad'.

Where exactly do you think the goalposts are, or were? What makes you think media self censorship is any better than personal self censorship?

Do you seriously expect us to believe that you were not referring to us personally when you were promoting self censorship in the aboriginal muslim scholars thread?

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Yadda

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 21884
A cat with a view

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #67 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

Quote:

I think what FD wants is for persons like yourself, to state your position(s) definitively.

Everything isnt black and white you know. There are shades of grey. However i have stated my positions he just doesnt like it and misquotes it trying to make it mean what he wants it to mean instead of what i have stated it means.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

Quote:

I think what FD wants is for persons like yourself, to state your position(s) definitively.

Everything isnt black and white you know.

There are shades of grey. However i have stated my positions he just doesnt like it and misquotes it trying to make it mean what he wants it to mean instead of what i have stated it means.

SOB

Another poster on OzPol recently said that;

"Truth is a philosophy, not a reality."

+++

Everything isnt black and white you know.

No.

It is about you, because you want black and white to merge [into shades of grey], for your own purposes.

But light, and darkness, are distinct.

Q.
Can light and darkness, exist together?

It is an impossibility.

Light and darkness, and, goodness and wickedness.

They are separate, and by definition, they cannot exist together in the same place.

Light and darkness, cannot exist together.

Light will drive away the darkness.

Or, the darkness will try to overwhelm and extinguish the light.

They cannot co-exist.

+++

Hey SPOT,

When i leave here, i want to live in the light.

You have to make your own choice.

Back to top

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26513
Australia

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #68 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:36pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

You have stated your opinion, then changed every one of them in the face of questioning, leaving people wondering whether you have any opinions at all, above the mindless platitudes like 'not all muslims are terrorists' or 'christians are worse than muslims' or 'all relgions are equally bad'.

Where exactly do you think the goalposts are, or were? What makes you think media self censorship is any better than personal self censorship?

Do you seriously expect us to believe that you were not referring to us personally when you were promoting self censorship in the aboriginal muslim scholars thread?

Nope. YOU have changed it. You are dishonest.

SOB

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis? Reply #69 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:37pm Quote: Hey SPOT, When i leave here, i want to live in the light. You have to make your own choice. I know how you got your name now . . . yadda yadda yadda SOB
Back to top	Whaaaaaah! I'm a Moron! - edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope IP Logged

Yadda

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 21884
A cat with a view

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #70 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:05pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

Quote:

Hey SPOT,

When i leave here, i want to live in the light.

You have to make your own choice.

I know how you got your name now . . . yadda yadda yadda

SOB

Quote:

Day after day alone on the hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still,
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,

Back to top

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

IP Logged

Soren

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 25654
Gender: male

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #71 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:12pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

You have stated your opinion, then changed every one of them in the face of questioning, leaving people wondering whether you have any opinions at all, above the mindless platitudes like 'not all muslims are terrorists' or 'christians are worse than muslims' or 'all relgions are equally bad'.

Where exactly do you think the goalposts are, or were? What makes you think media self censorship is any better than personal self censorship?

Do you seriously expect us to believe that you were not referring to us personally when you were promoting self censorship in the aboriginal muslim scholars thread?

1. The female (a.k.a. SOB) always makes the rules.
2. The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification from the female (a.k.a. SOB).
3. No one can possibly know all the rules.
4. If the female (a.k.a. SOB) suspects that someone knows all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules.
5. SOB) is never wrong.
6. If SOB is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a direct result of something you did or said wrong.
7. If Rule 6 applies, you must apologize immediately for causing the misunderstanding.
8. SOB may change her mind at any time.
9. No one else can ever change his mind without SOB’s written consent.
10. SOB has every right to be angry or upset at any time.
11. Everyone else must remain calm at all times, unless the female (a.k.a. SOB) wants him to be angry or upset.
12. The female (a.k.a. SOB) must, under no circumstance, let anyone know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset.
13. Everyone, especially FD, is expected to mind read at all times.
14. If the female (a.k.a. SOB) has kittens, all the rules are null and void.
15. The female (a.k.a. SOB) is ready to answer questions when she is good 'n ready.
16. Everyone else, especially FD, must be ready at all times.

Back to top

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26513
Australia

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #72 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:43pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

You have stated your opinion, then changed every one of them in the face of questioning, leaving people wondering whether you have any opinions at all, above the mindless platitudes like 'not all muslims are terrorists' or 'christians are worse than muslims' or 'all relgions are equally bad'.

Where exactly do you think the goalposts are, or were? What makes you think media self censorship is any better than personal self censorship?

Do you seriously expect us to believe that you were not referring to us personally when you were promoting self censorship in the aboriginal muslim scholars thread?

You are full of poo. I already explained my case and you choose to ignore it and assign your own meaning to my words. You will prolly go to hell you know. Im sure your god doesnt approve of you treating your neighbour this way.

SOB

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49371
At my desk.

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #73 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 6:44pm

Denying you said it is not the same as explaining your case. Contradicting yourself is not the same as explaining yourself. Accusing me of lying because I point out all the contradictions is not the same as explaining yourself.

Expecting the media to limit what they say to your version of the truth is self censorship - of the worst kind.

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26513
Australia

Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #74 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 6:52pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

Denying you said it is not the same as explaining your case. Contradicting yourself is not the same as explaining yourself. Accusing me of lying because I point out all the contradictions is not the same as explaining yourself.

Expecting the media to limit what they say to your version of the truth is self censorship - of the worst kind.

I have not said anything about self censorship. You have. I said they should end their fear campaign.

SOB

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged