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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #90 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

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As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #91 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:26am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

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As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

SOB

Sometimes spot i think you and I will understand each other better if we spoke in Hebrew.

You misunderstand my points so many times in english.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #92 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:32am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:26am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

Quote:

As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

SOB

Sometimes spot i think you and I will understand each other better if we spoke in Hebrew.

You misunderstand my points so many times in english.

Do you understand what he said?

And i understand most of your points just fine i just disagree with them. If i dont i ask you what they mean.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #93 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:40am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:26am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

Quote:

As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

SOB

Sometimes spot i think you and I will understand each other better if we spoke in Hebrew.

You misunderstand my points so many times in english.

Do you understand what he said?

And i understand most of your points just fine i just disagree with them. If i dont i ask you what they mean.

SOB

The bit i didnt understand was 'convo' which was what you all said and i look up and see it is shortened for conversation.

Yes I understand the rest.

He refers to the fact he has been involved in various situations in the time in the army and uses the word to mean this.

He is also meaning that you are one of the people who would not do this.

It is not a Australian thought.

I - and many of us that was in the Israeli Army - thinks the same of various civilians.
In the West Bank as example, some of the people do this. Make trouble and only shout things when we the army are there to hide behind.
Then leave us to fight their problem and put our live in the danger.

Too many people with big mouths who would not be brave enough.

This was my point to Puppet. He talks a lot and he says a lot of bad things about Israel and the Israeli army and my comrades.
He spend just 1 day with me in the West Bank and he would be a frightened child...

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #94 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:59am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

Quote:

As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

SOB

Look up "convo" with the enemy on:

Ididntgetit.com.au

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #95 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 11:04am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:40am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:26am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 10:23am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 8:09am:

Quote:

As you know full well a "fear campaign" is not "speaking your mind" - it is manipulation.

Can you explain to me how to tell whether a person is speaking their mind or manipulating? You accuse me of lying all the time. Does that mean you don't think I am speaking my mind?

Do you believe your lies? Somehow i doubt it.

SOB

shouldn't that be "seemingly" I doubt it?

And anyway how can you believe lies big i big i?

Awww diddams you being left out of the convo?

SOB

I had plenty of "convos" in my years in the army "diddams"..something i suspect you would preferably leave to others.

I have to ask - WTF does that mean? Obviously those convos werent in english.

SOB

Sometimes spot i think you and I will understand each other better if we spoke in Hebrew.

You misunderstand my points so many times in english.

Do you understand what he said?

And i understand most of your points just fine i just disagree with them. If i dont i ask you what they mean.

SOB

The bit i didnt understand was 'convo' which was what you all said and i look up and see it is shortened for conversation.

Yes I understand the rest.

He refers to the fact he has been involved in various situations in the time in the army and uses the word to mean this.

He is also meaning that you are one of the people who would not do this.

It is not a Australian thought.

I - and many of us that was in the Israeli Army - thinks the same of various civilians.
In the West Bank as example, some of the people do this. Make trouble and only shout things when we the army are there to hide behind.
Then leave us to fight their problem and put our live in the danger.

Too many people with big mouths who would not be brave enough.

This was my point to Puppet. He talks a lot and he says a lot of bad things about Israel and the Israeli army and my comrades.
He spend just 1 day with me in the West Bank and he would be a frightened child...

Well. In that case brumbie would have no idea if i have ever served or not. Just a pufferfish i guess.

As for you and the israeli army - yesh im sure it makes feel you all arrogant and important and all to call an air-strike on 2 large apartment buildings but this is australia and cant do that here. PP is right about israel - they are bullies.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #96 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 11:51am

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This was my point to Puppet. He talks a lot and he says a lot of bad things about Israel and the Israeli army and my comrades.
He spend just 1 day with me in the West Bank and he would be a frightened child...

What does this point prove exactly?
Fact is if you were in the enemies position your protocol would be to surrender and run like little babies, so obviously they are made of steel compared to you.

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #97 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:08pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:46am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:18am:

Should I keep saying these things, or should I self censor?

If you were even capable of self censoring you wouldn't be such a prick. However as i have said before you have the right to say whatever the bugger you want. If you lie all the time though nobody is going to believe you. If you act like this in real life then you wont have any friends.

The media on the other hand should not be running a manipulative fear campaign.

SOB

Should there be rules against it?

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #98 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:23pm

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:08pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:46am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 9:18am:

Should I keep saying these things, or should I self censor?

If you were even capable of self censoring you wouldn't be such a prick. However as i have said before you have the right to say whatever the bugger you want. If you lie all the time though nobody is going to believe you. If you act like this in real life then you wont have any friends.

The media on the other hand should not be running a manipulative fear campaign.

SOB

Should there be rules against it?

answer my question and *maybe* ill think about having a civil conversation about the media but i doubt it because you just twist and misquote and lie

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Do you believe your lies?

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #100 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:49pm

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2012 at 1:39pm:

So you will only give a straight answer to a simple question after I answer an absurdly loaded question? I guess it should come as no surprise that you promote self censorship, given how reluctantly you say what you really think.

I am not going to explain it all again. Go back and read the thread. I have not even talked about "self censorship". you have.

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Reply #102 - Jul 21^st, 2012 at 7:10pm

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

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I have not said anything about self censorship. You have. I said they should end their fear campaign.

Can you explain the difference between that and self censorship? Is it not self censorship if you think they should stop saying it?

Here is another example of spot 'changing his mind' about what he said. This time he claimed to be attempting irony:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1342674702/23#23

Rule 8.

S,

You need to include a link back, to the post with the list of the rules. Grin

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Re: Would spot defend the KKK and Nazis?
Reply #103 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

Is this twisting your words spot?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

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democracy and freedom

Because its bullshit. Its american sloganism. Nobody in their right mind supports that.

I dont care that other countries have other regimes. Some have dictators and some have monarchies and we have pointless voting between 2 equally bad parties.

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Reply #104 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

I think he's probably overcompensating. I can see the hypocrisy in Holier that thou Christians and Holier than thou Muslims when they get together. I just sometimes wish they'd get a room.

No religion or ethnicity for that matter, has a monopoly on good people or bad people, and my experience is that probably all religions can have extremists as well as perfectly normal people.

It's probably fair to say that ordinary Australians have a bit of Islamophobia, and that it's spurred on by the media. For that matter, many ordinary Australians are highly suspicious of "Bible Thumpers" and "hand clappers" too.

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