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Reply #30 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:44am
 
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
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Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.

No thats the truth and you Japanese can go on with your racist self serving negativity all you like but Australias manufacturing was the best, the highest quality, the most environmentally sustainable and built to last not cashed in every couple of years....They don't call it Jap Crap for nothing... Cool Cool
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Reply #31 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:48am
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:44am:
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Smiley Smiley


Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.

No thats the truth and you Japanese can go on with your racist self serving negativity all you like but Australias manufacturing was the best, the highest quality, the most environmentally sustainable and built to last not cashed in every couple of years....They don't call it Jap Crap for nothing... Cool Cool


It hasnt been "Jap Crap" for a long time, and Ford and Holden were overtaken many years ago.

Have a look at the holden Captiva, made in korea in a daewoo factory!

Hyundai, Nissan, Volkswagon all make substantially better, more reliable and better fitted out vehicles and have for some time.
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Reply #32 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:52am
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:08am:
And yet we all know that Australians make better cars but the Government deliberately places illegal economic sanctions on them to make them price uncompetitive.  We must urge politicians with a nation wide campaign to reinstate tariffs urgently to force foreign countries to meet our standards of production.  When Australian builds things they are built to last... Smiley


what rubbish.

the government got rid of the tarrifs but made up for it by giving them handouts whenever they wanted. In the end they are being subsidized  one way or another.

and everyone knows they make junk that's why they find it difficult to export to the rest of the world.

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Reply #33 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:55am
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:44am:
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Smiley Smiley


Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.

No thats the truth and you Japanese can go on with your racist self serving negativity all you like but Australias manufacturing was the best, the highest quality, the most environmentally sustainable and built to last not cashed in every couple of years....They don't call it Jap Crap for nothing... Cool Cool


Highest quality Cheesy LOL That's why when you see a car broken down on the road it's usually a Ford.

People who buy a jap car know they get a reliable car that will go for years. The folks at Holden and Ford  haven't worked out the secret for reliability.
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Reply #34 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:57am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:52am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:08am:
And yet we all know that Australians make better cars but the Government deliberately places illegal economic sanctions on them to make them price uncompetitive.  We must urge politicians with a nation wide campaign to reinstate tariffs urgently to force foreign countries to meet our standards of production.  When Australian builds things they are built to last... Smiley


what rubbish.

the government got rid of the tarrifs but made up for it by giving them handouts whenever they wanted. In the end they are being subsidized  one way or another.

and everyone knows they make junk that's why they find it difficult to export to the rest of the world.


Arent you sick of these economic rationalist losers - who also coincidentally are behind the ETS and Carbon Tax - they are always talking Australia down and skimming off the top for personal greed and there is no truth in anything they say - its all no no no negativity and lies and Greed.  Aussies are the can do nation - Tariffs and subsidies ensure our high standards are maintained as is our children's future. Smiley Smiley
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Reply #35 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:59am
 
Whats with all the Japanese posters talking Australia down - ... Huh
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Reply #36 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 12:21pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:59am:
Whats with all the Japanese posters talking Australia down - ... Huh


Tony encouraged it

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Reply #37 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 12:21pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:59am:
Whats with all the Japanese posters talking Australia down - ... Huh


Tony encouraged it

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does anyone realize that this could be the future prime minister of australia Cheesy LOL
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Reply #38 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
Why do the old Lib Lab Greens tripartite parties always talk negative about what Australia cant do and talk up the "Asian Century".  As if our kids have no future.

Vote the rise up Australia party - the can do party - the party that will put Australian manufacturing and engineering back on the map and keep Australia Australian...we wont sell out like they did...http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Cool Cool
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Reply #39 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:20pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:44am:
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Smiley Smiley


Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.

No thats the truth and you Japanese can go on with your racist self serving negativity all you like but Australias manufacturing was the best, the highest quality, the most environmentally sustainable and built to last not cashed in every couple of years....They don't call it Jap Crap for nothing... Cool Cool


cars imported from O/S outsell cars made here
Imported cars outrate aust. cars in customer satisfaction.
imports outrate aust cars in retained value.

the facts speak against you
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Reply #40 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:25pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:20pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:44am:
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Smiley Smiley


Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.

No thats the truth and you Japanese can go on with your racist self serving negativity all you like but Australias manufacturing was the best, the highest quality, the most environmentally sustainable and built to last not cashed in every couple of years....They don't call it Jap Crap for nothing... Cool Cool


cars imported from O/S outsell cars made here
Imported cars outrate aust. cars in customer satisfaction.
imports outrate aust cars in retained value.

the facts speak against you

The Rise Up Australia Party will fix the competitive problem by moving aside the cant do and negative element, and encouraging expansion of manufacturing by placing tariffs and duties on imports to make sure they meet our standards and encouraging productive manufacturing and agriculture with subsidy's...The facts are on our side, the global financial crisis is on your account... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #41 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 4:06pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:19pm:
Why do the old Lib Lab Greens tripartite parties always talk negative about what Australia cant do and talk up the "Asian Century".  As if our kids have no future.

Vote the rise up Australia party - the can do party - the party that will put Australian manufacturing and engineering back on the map and keep Australia Australian...we wont sell out like they did...http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Cool Cool


because it's true !! Thanks to those brain dead maggots in Canberra our children have no future other than to pull rickshaws for the rich chinese tourists and polishing rockets in massage parlours Sad
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Reply #42 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 4:12pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 4:06pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:19pm:
Why do the old Lib Lab Greens tripartite parties always talk negative about what Australia cant do and talk up the "Asian Century".  As if our kids have no future.

Vote the rise up Australia party - the can do party - the party that will put Australian manufacturing and engineering back on the map and keep Australia Australian...we wont sell out like they did...http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Cool Cool


because it's true !! Thanks to those brain dead maggots in Canberra our children have no future other than to pull rickshaws for the rich chinese tourists and polishing rockets in massage parlours Sad

Thanks to globalism, free trade, open borders, privatization, economic rationalism, Carbon Tax, Emissions Trading and other acts of genius by the we cant brigade.. Cool Cool Cool
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Reply #43 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 6:45pm
 
Verge wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 10:57am:
We all know Australia built the finest cars and the ALP deliberately sabotaged them by lowering tariffs so imports could be sold cheaper here.  They know these imports do not meet our production standards but they are happy to circumvent our standards in this way and undermine our own competitive position for personal short term gain.  But these economic rationalists are selling our country and the time has come to stop it and reinstall appropriate tariffs and protections of our national sovereignty , our food security and manufacturing with appropriate tariffs and duties on imports to make sure our own trading position is not unfairly disadvantaged.  The carbon tax and ETS must be scrapped or charged on imports from countries like China and India who are the real mass emissions offenders.  We must stop subsidizing other nations and there peoples jobs over our own which is illegal and unconstitutional.  Only the Rise Up Australia Party has the sensible policies to secure Australia's economic future and Keep Australia Australian owned...
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com Smiley Smiley


Thats rot.  The Holden and Falcon have survived on emotion alone for over a decade.

Their reliability is pathetic, and their suspension packages "for Australian conditions" couldnt be further from the truth.

The hyundai i30 won car of the year for something like 3 years in a row and it didnt change in that time.

Ford and Holden have treated their customers poorly by overcharging for heaps of rubbish.  If it wasnt for the ford/holden V8SC rivalry they would have died long ago.  Even NASCAR went to smaller vehicles for their main racing game long ago.


All cars have problems.

I currently own 2 Australian Fords (A Territory and a GT Falcon), and a Japanese Toyota Landcruiser. Before that I've owned 2 Nissan Patrols and a Suzuki (all Japanese).

The only fault I've had with the Fords is the GT had a gearbox oil leak fixed under warranty (ironically, a German-made ZF gearbox...). The Cruiser has had several oil leaks (Engine, transfer case), cracked bits of metal, 2 front diff failures, leaks dust like a sieve, seat material tore, rear speakers stopped working..... Between the Patrols I had to rebuild an engine due to burning oil, several electrical faults, 3 recalls, terrible and unfixable squeaks and rattles. The Suzuki's clutch failed after less than 50,000km.

My uncle had a Merc/AMG E55 which developed a computer fault. It took months and numerous return visits to the dealer to rectify.

The bottom line is that all vehicles, no matter their origin, have build and engineering faults. The Japanese cars are probably the best put together, but they have their share of major engineering faults (eg: Witness Toyota's recent long list of global recalls). The German cars are probably the best engineered, but they often have abysmal build quality (They often rank very low in customer satisfaction). And both Japan and Germany have started offshoring their builds to cheap labour countries anyway.

I'm not under any illusion that Australian cars are the best in the World. But they certainly aren't the worst and on a value basis are right up there. Of course a Falcon G6 isn't as good as a BMW 330i. But it's half the price so what would you expect?
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Reply #44 - Jul 23rd, 2012 at 6:48pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:25pm:
The Rise Up Australia Party will fix the competitive problem by moving aside the cant do and negative element, and encouraging expansion of manufacturing by placing tariffs and duties on imports to make sure they meet our standards and encouraging productive manufacturing and agriculture with subsidy's...The facts are on our side, the global financial crisis is on your account... Smiley Smiley


You do know that there are still tariffs on imported cars, right?
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