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Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:13am Only boat people..not those that fly in? Whys that? But I do agree that all asylum seekers should be processed onshore and in the community in supported housing.
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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:25am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

What an incredibly naive and stupid post.

We pay the government (with taxes), and the government uses that money to provide the infrastructure and services required for refugees.

The same goes for government run nursing homes, hospitals, and zoos.

Or, are you suggesting that animal lovers keep tigers and elephants at their houses? Are you also suggesting that anyone who feels compassion for sick people should have a few patients hooked up to machines in their spare room?

I don't know what it is in here lately, but the IQ level has taken a huge nose dive.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:26am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

How would that solve the problem of ppl drowning @ sea? That is the problem isnt it?

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:32am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:26am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

How would that solve the problem of ppl drowning @ sea? That is the problem isnt it?

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You're correct, and it wouldn't solve the problem at all.

Some people, however, seem to think that the amount of people coming in boats or the method of transport is a problem. They're getting their knickers in a knot over a "problem" that doesn't even exist.

These people are legal asylum seekers and they are coming in relatively small numbers. A few more boats with a few hundred more legal asylum seekers is not a problem.

The problem is that they are drowning.

We need to stop the deaths, not stop the boats.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 1:54pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:25am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

What an incredibly naive and stupid post.

We pay the government (with taxes), and the government uses that money to provide the infrastructure and services required for refugees.

The same goes for government run nursing homes, hospitals, and zoos.

Or, are you suggesting that animal lovers keep tigers and elephants at their houses? Are you also suggesting that anyone who feels compassion for sick people should have a few patients hooked up to machines in their spare room?

I don't know what it is in here lately, but the IQ level has taken a huge nose dive.

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Australians should come first for Australia. That's MM's deal.

I wonder how many homeless Australians MM has living at his place.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 3:51pm adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:13am: Only boat people..not those that fly in? Whys that? But I do agree that all asylum seekers should be processed onshore and in the community in supported housing. Very bad idea. They are like rats, once they are in it is much harder to get them out.
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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:03pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:25am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

What an incredibly naive and stupid post.

We pay the government (with taxes), and the government uses that money to provide the infrastructure and services required for refugees.

The same goes for government run nursing homes, hospitals, and zoos.

Or, are you suggesting that animal lovers keep tigers and elephants at their houses? Are you also suggesting that anyone who feels compassion for sick people should have a few patients hooked up to machines in their spare room?

I don't know what it is in here lately, but the IQ level has taken a huge nose dive.

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The plan is to cut out the middle man as much as possible. Instead of millions of tax payers dollars being spent on these people, those who want them here can have the burden.

At the moment it's an "out of sight out of mind" thing for the humanitarian brigade. An impersonal thing where the humanitarian trendies feel nice and fuzzy inside because someone, somewhere else is doing their moral work for them. These people being civil servants and/or contractors.

I really don't see the problem. If you and your humanitarian buddies really feel you need to 'save' these people, then you'd only be too willing to take them into your home. Palming it off onto a third party where you play no role except sprout empty moral platitudes doesn't cut it.

See, under this plan the true humanitarians come out - those noble individuals who really do know the meaning of charity. Conversely, we also see the pretenders come out. Those who see this no more than a political football to score a few cheap points by sprouting a few moralized slogans here and there.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:06pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:32am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:26am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

How would that solve the problem of ppl drowning @ sea? That is the problem isnt it?

SOB

You're correct, and it wouldn't solve the problem at all.

Some people, however, seem to think that the amount of people coming in boats or the method of transport is a problem. They're getting their knickers in a knot over a "problem" that doesn't even exist.

These people are legal asylum seekers and they are coming in relatively small numbers. A few more boats with a few hundred more legal asylum seekers is not a problem.

The problem is that they are drowning.

We need to stop the deaths, not stop the boats.

So how do you do that, pal? Gist said he had a solution to 'resettle' them before they leave. I asked him 9 times (so far) the details of this plan. Unfortunately, I received nothing but abuse for asking such a pertinent question. He doesn't seem to have any idea.

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Reply #9 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:07pm

We need to remind all Australian citizens that they have the statutory power and right as citizens under the crimes act and in common law to defend themselves, their country and its borders with reasonable force...that they have the power in themselves legally as citizens to stop and arrest Cross border offender scum and hand them in for mandatory detention till they can be deported...

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Reply #10 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:20pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:13am:

Only boat people..not those that fly in?
Whys that?
But I do agree that all asylum seekers should be processed onshore and in the community in supported housing.

Very bad idea. They are like rats, once they are in it is much harder to get them out.

Didnt hitler say the jews were like rats?

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Reply #11 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:23pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:07pm:

We need to remind all Australian citizens that they have the statutory power and right as citizens under the crimes act and in common law to defend themselves, their country and its borders with reasonable force...that they have the power in themselves legally as citizens to stop and arrest Cross border offender scum and hand them in for mandatory detention till they can be deported...

Yeah visa overstayers are a problem. There are way more of them than there are of refugees and nothing is being done about them.

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Reply #12 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:28pm

What we need is concerned Aussie citizens of good standing to personally combat illegal immigration by going to our Northern borders and organizing Patrols, surveillance of illegal alien activity and coordinate rapid response and intercept capability to aid in the national security and send a clear message to those hoping to come here by boat that this country is not theirs to take. Cool

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Reply #14 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 5:18pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:13am:

Only boat people..not those that fly in?
Whys that?
But I do agree that all asylum seekers should be processed onshore and in the community in supported housing.

Very bad idea. They are like rats, once they are in it is much harder to get them out.

Didnt hitler say the jews were like rats?

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You said this to me why?
Based purely on my religion?

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