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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #45 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 5:33pm cut 'regular' stream immigration by 90% and increase the reffo intake by 100%. fine by me. why do immigrationists always want more and more but will never compromise?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74939 Gender:	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #46 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm there's a problem?
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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #47 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:49pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

The simple solution is this: We only take in 'boat people' who can be billeted. This would require those who want them here to volunteer themselves to do the billeting. This way the tax payer only pays for the boat people's processing. After that, the entire financial burden will be on the billeters. It is the responsibility of these volunteer billeters to ensure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, and provided with all other expenses until the 'boat person' can stand on their own two feet in all these departments.

This would include setting up a registrar were people can put their names down and sign binding legal contracts. All at the expense of the humanitarian, not the tax payer. Any excess 'boat people' that cannot be billeted due to a shortage of volunteers will either be granted a temporary protection visa or sent back to where they came from.

This should not be a problem. Because we all know that the humanitarian brigade want them here and they will be only too happy to spend their money on helping these people settle. It's win/win. The humanitarians get to feel nice, warm, and fuzzy inside and the 'boat people' get freed from 'oppression.'

How 'bout we let them read the news and point them in the direction of future employment.

Quote:

Overseas Australian jobs 'could rise' in 2010

More Australian manufacturing jobs could be sent overseas in 2010, according to a leading industry organization.

The Australian Industry Group (AIG) has claimed that the sector, which endured a difficult 12 months in 2009, will continue to struggle next year because of the high dollar and rising interest rates.

This, the group suggests, will lead to more companies relocating their operations to cheaper markets in other countries.

[...]

http://www.randstad.com.au/about-randstad/world-of-work/overseas-australian-jobs-could-rise-in-2010

Things have gotten worse since 2010.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #48 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:44pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

Good idea Wesley, except governments seem to be afraid of infrastructure these days, especially the Libs.

The NBN was the biggest project you'll get for now. A bit of forward thinking goes a long way.

Liberals are not likely to spend on infrastructure, that's why the place is so run down, years of neglect.

Talk to Tony about your idea, I'm sure he'd put it in the NO box.

Infrastructure is up to the states. There were mostly state Labor governments in power while Howard was PM.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #49 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
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Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #50 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
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Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

So how many do you think we should fly here then? Everyone who wants to? Keep in mind that around 10million want to come here if they can.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #51 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
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Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

So how many do you think we should fly here then? Everyone who wants to? Keep in mind that around 10million want to come here if they can.

Yes. Everyone who seeks asylum.

If they are not bona fide refugees they can be placed on the next plane home.

Simple huh.

Better than wasting money flying them to Nauru isn't it?

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #52 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 11:17pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
...
Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

So how many do you think we should fly here then? Everyone who wants to? Keep in mind that around 10million want to come here if they can.

Yes. Everyone who seeks asylum.

Fly them all in without ID? How stupid can you get?

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #53 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 12:14am Who are these Chinese foreign agents posting to undermine Australias territorial and border security rights?...Why dont they take the illegal immigrants...
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #54 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 12:18am Hey everyone - lets all target Sarah Hanson-Young, Christine Milne & Bob Brown relentlessly with personal legal action to defend our constitutional right to territorial security...
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #55 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:54am Great solution, Mist. That way Australia can meet its international commitments and the cost can be avoided by the free riders. Free Rider Mist rides once again.
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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #56 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 8:49am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
...
Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

So how many do you think we should fly here then? Everyone who wants to? Keep in mind that around 10million want to come here if they can.

Yes. Everyone who seeks asylum.

If they are not bona fide refugees they can be placed on the next plane home.

Simple huh.

Better than wasting money flying them to Nauru isn't it?

I asked HOW MANY. as expected you ignored the question. the number is 1 million? 2 million? 3 million? and dopey, ,most of them WOULD be genuine refugees. So wat do you want to do? bring 5 million unemployed and unemployable people to the country?

try an actual answer next time.

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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #57 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 8:51am

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:54am:

Great solution, Mist. That way Australia can meet its international commitments and the cost can be avoided by the free riders.

Free Rider Mist rides once again.

It is actually quite a brilliant idea! Let people OWN the problem. I wonder how many would take it up?

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem. Reply #58 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 9:23am Nobody has any genuine claim of entitlement from this country that conflicts with the rights of Australian citizens or their right to defend themselves...We can sue anti border security activists like Bob Brown, Sarah Hanson-Young & Christine Milne personally...
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Re: Proposed solution to 'boat people' problem.
Reply #59 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 8:49am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

there's a problem?

My problem is that I actually find myself agreeing with Clive Palmer on something:

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.
...
Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?" he said.

-news.com.au 30/6/12

So how many do you think we should fly here then? Everyone who wants to? Keep in mind that around 10million want to come here if they can.

Yes. Everyone who seeks asylum.

If they are not bona fide refugees they can be placed on the next plane home.

Simple huh.

Better than wasting money flying them to Nauru isn't it?

I asked HOW MANY. as expected you ignored the question. the number is 1 million? 2 million? 3 million? and dopey, ,most of them WOULD be genuine refugees. So wat do you want to do? bring 5 million unemployed and unemployable people to the country?

try an actual answer next time.

I did answer the question.
I said: Everyone who seeks asylum.

Why is the number relevant?

Libs and Labs both claim they want to stop people risking their lives in boats. Well the simple solution is to have regular flights from Indosesia bringing asylum seekers to Australia and have their claims processed. That way they will not risk there lives in boats.

Problem solved

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