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Reply #75 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 11:06pm

Gist wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

Soren wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 10:52pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 9:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

My opinion is that the vast majority are not against refugees. Xenophobic pricks are good at revving up the dumb ass racists,as is evident here, but most people I know are smart enough to understand Australia is doing its part,at best, many believe we should be doing OUR FAIR SHARE,which on stats, we are not.

I am not against refugees at all. I am, however, against country-shopping queue jumpers of which more than 21,000 have arrived since Rudd dismantled the Pacific Solution.

So only ones who arrive by boat are country shoppers? Are the ones that arrive by plane all bona fide then?

Only a very small number of people who are granted visas claim asylum (less than 1%). And the numbers per country - even region - are monitored and risk assessment ratings change every year and visa grants are made more difficult if the risk increases.
This is why the non-name rorters on boats could not get a tourist visa.

Simple Soren, don't play with numbers, you know they only confuse you. The "people who are granted visas" includes everyone who comes into this country including all tourists and people entering for business purposes. So what if only 1% of them request asylum? The number arriving by boat and requesting asylum is only 0.1% of the same number.

That's a lot less Soren. Just in case you're confused.

Except, of course, the ones coming on boats have no visas. SO 100% of boat people enter Australia without a visa.

WHy?

Because if these people applied for a visa - any kin of visa - they would not be given one. Only about 1% of visa holders claim asylum because you don't give you a visa just for the asking. You will not be granted a tourist visa if they think you are going to claim asylum once you arrived.

That's why the boat people are not taking the easy option of a short flight from Bali to Darwin -they would not be given a visa of any kind. That's why they are paying big dollar for a passage on a leaky boat.

So these are all people who could not enter Australia legally. But once they enter illegally, without ID, we give them everything. We are welcoming and rewarding people whom we would not allow to enter legally.
That is right only in your confused, Gillard-addled world, Gino.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Why are ppl so against boat ppl?? Reply #76 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 5:26am Quote: Except, of course, the ones coming on boats have no visas. SO 100% of boat people enter Australia without a visa. Nope. They are all stopped out @ sea and are taken to detention centres. They dont enter australia without a visa. If they enter australia they are brought here. SOB
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Re: Why are ppl so against boat ppl??
Reply #77 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 7:44am

woof woof wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

I can tell you right now if a new leader took over labor someone sensible and they punted the carbon tax and reinstated the pacific solution they would go to 60% in the polls. But they wont so they'll stay in mid 20s. They are too proud, dense and stupid to realise where they fall over.

Yes ... I can see your point ... Economic and environmental hard decisions should not come before the government's right to attract votes. Government is not about governing, its all about vote catching, as you astutely point out

The bastards are too proud, dense and stupid to realise where they fall over.

Great insight

Prevailing wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

There is a very simple inescapable fact that the Australian people have a legal right to life, a legal right to defend themselves, a legal right to border security and not to be harassed by imposition of foreign migrations for racial or economic reasons... Cool

Your right too .... I'm an indigenous ... and thank you so much for this. ALL the phuckin white-trash should be sent off in boats ... leaky, unseaworthy ones, preferably

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

I'm against both boat people and the many who come though legal immigration. Not because I'm scared of them, not because i'm racist. But because what this means for the rest of us. Immigration decreases the standard of living for the middle and lower class Australians. While also destroys the beauty of our nation with over population..... i could not even buy any fresh whole snapper yesterday.

I feel for you brother .... Your dead right as well ... so many smart people on this forum ... I couldn't even find a Bilby to spear for brekky out my way this morning.

And as for the beauty ... well .. its still there ... but all the phuckin white-trash have cued up in front of me .... all I get to see is huge obese McDonald arseholes.

Prevailing wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

Mandatory detention of illegal immigration offenders should be strictly on a user pays basis - there should be co contribution from the offenders country of origin and they should work off the cost of their detention till they are deported

Do you tink ol' blighty is gunna coff up for your subsidy while you work off the cost of your housing bro ?

I'll chip in if your short

Prevailing wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Only the Protectionist Parties can ensure that Australians legal right to secure borders is upheld and the boats are turned away - the old free trade open borders parties of the corporate rich sector - the Greens/Libs and Labor do not believe in the legal rights to security and free customs of all Australian citizens - they will never defend our borders or economic rights. Cool

You an abo too bro ? A black-bastard like me ? Where can I find out more about this black-fella protectionist party ?

Prevailing wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 7:06pm:

All Australian citizens have a water-tight legal right to border security, sovereignty, life, self defense and the right to arrest any illegal offender at large in our country and hand them into mandatory detention for deportation.

Yeah bro ... cum da revolution, all dat white-trash blood gunna flow down the streets

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Most of you phuckin white-trash rite-wing morons have never been more than 50 klm from a coast line ... north, south, east or west ... and you can't get snapper ... even in liverpool ? Not even for da Kat or da Woof-Woof Dog ?

Where is Liverpool ? Iz it Aussie ? Iz it within our borders ..?

Or is it more reflective of a naming convention that originated in the gutters of Europe ... and you bought it here you 'illegal' immigrants !

and yet your over-weening arrogance of assumption that you are 'Aussie' ...... The narrowness of your education is appalling .. really .. I mean .. like ... just phuckin appalling.

Jesu phuckin wept .... get a DNA test, and get your foreign passport ready for travel ... if you have one ... otherwise we have some 'slightly used' fishing boats (no longer required by my brown brother) .... which we will give you for your enforced journey north.

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Reply #81 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 10:10pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 5:26am:

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Except, of course, the ones coming on boats have no visas. SO 100% of boat people enter Australia without a visa.

Nope. They are all stopped out @ sea and are taken to detention centres. They dont enter australia without a visa. If they enter australia they are brought here.

SOB

They are brought in without a visa. That' why they are in detention, numpty. You can't get a visa without having your identity established (even if it is a false identity in most cases). They do not issue visas on HMAS Watertaxi.

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Reply #82 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 11:22pm

Mutawintji wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 7:44am:

woof woof wrote on Jul 24^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

I can tell you right now if a new leader took over labor someone sensible and they punted the carbon tax and reinstated the pacific solution they would go to 60% in the polls. But they wont so they'll stay in mid 20s. They are too proud, dense and stupid to realise where they fall over.

Yes ... I can see your point ... Economic and environmental hard decisions should not come before the government's right to attract votes. Government is not about governing, its all about vote catching, as you astutely point out

Er... they can't stay in government if they don't get the votes. Democracy. New-fangled thingy, hasn't been around for 40,000 years like cave painting and tribal warfare and sticks which are evidently much better ways of governing a country. Sticks especially have been effective for the past 50,000 years.

The political achievements of 60,000 years of successful Aboriginal civilisation are surpassed only by the sheer dynamism of 80,000 years of continuous Aboriginal innovation and literary, architectural and scientific tradition. A marvel not matched by anyone. Any fool can build a pyramid or invent writing -but can they burn down the countryside? Can they sniff petrol? Of course they can't. Upstarts.

Aborigines have shown the world over the past 100,000 year how to make economic and environmental hard decisions. They have been been able to look back at the last 120,000 years and be proud that they have not changed one bit.
And ALL that while non-white!!! That makes every year count double.

Beat that, democracy! Change government?? Aboriginese have managed not to change anything for a million years! That takes a lot of economic and environmental hard decisions.

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Re: Why are ppl so against boat ppl??
Reply #83 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:03am

Soren wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 10:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 5:26am:

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Except, of course, the ones coming on boats have no visas. SO 100% of boat people enter Australia without a visa.

Nope. They are all stopped out @ sea and are taken to detention centres. They dont enter australia without a visa. If they enter australia they are brought here.

SOB

They are brought in without a visa. That' why they are in detention, numpty. You can't get a visa without having your identity established (even if it is a false identity in most cases). They do not issue visas on HMAS Watertaxi.

I am saying that they do not come here without visas they are brought here.

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Re: Why are ppl so against boat ppl??
Reply #84 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:26pm

Mutawintji wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 7:44am:

Jesu phuckin wept .... get a DNA test, and get your foreign passport ready for travel ... if you have one ... otherwise we have some 'slightly used' fishing boats (no longer required by my brown brother) .... which we will give you for your enforced journey north.

Lake Mungo

Zac da Black

Is that you Zac da black in the Mungo film? Zac the phuckin white by the look of it.

Looks like half your DNA better jump on a ship and bugger off too.

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