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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #46 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:47pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. Tongue

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!

You are pissing on the grave of every digger that defended this countries borders against the Japanese and drove them back to Tokyo - you are the nut, of course we can defend our country - the age of entitlement to country shop without due process is over...

What you call 'defense' is not what I call 'defense'.

So, I say again, good luck selling your bullshite!! Wink

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #47 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:23pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. Tongue

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!

You are pissing on the grave of every digger that defended this countries borders against the Japanese and drove them back to Tokyo - you are the nut, of course we can defend our country - the age of entitlement to country shop without due process is over...

GONE

What Rubbish the diggers were never trying to keep refugees out - many would be disgusted by our behaviour.

lucky no one votes for his political party then ay!!!! Roll Eyes

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back Reply #48 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:22pm
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back Reply #49 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:50pm prevailing is a war monger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #50 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

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Reply #51 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #52 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #53 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #54 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:04pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Diplomacy.
The language of cowards.

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #55 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:04pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Diplomacy.
The language of cowards.

Where's your flag gone, softie???? Shocked

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #56 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:16pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... Cool

yEH,

go drowning poor people!! Roll Eyes

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Yes but you dont really mean diplomacy - you mean appeasement..its people like you who make war inevitable and kill hundreds of millions of people 0- never negotiate away your right for peace. You want peace - stop demanding my lunch money... Angry

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Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Reply #57 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:18pm

"Why should people on the Left, and I'll remind people that is the side of politics from whence I came, say that we should never intervene militarily?
I mean I can't understand why people would ever say that - we are talking here about countries in which the people are brutally repressed. This was the case in Afghanistan and it was the case in Iraq, don't tell me it wasn't.

The way we should look at it, is that it is our right and our duty to spread democracy and freedom. Why?
Because it is states that are repressed, that are dictatorial, that give their people no freedom, that don't allow them to exercise their democratic rights that in my experience and judgement are exactly the states which threaten and end up invading their neighbours.

Look no further than Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

Tony Blair, British Prime Minister
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Reply #58 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:23pm

Its not our right to spread anything - its our right to defend ourselves. Australia has no legal right to wage war to spread "democracy"...that right doesn't exist and no war for this cause is legal or legitimate. You must be defending your own security from aggression to legitimately defend yourself and wage war under Australian and international law... Roll Eyes

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Reply #59 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:43pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:18pm:

"Why should people on the Left, and I'll remind people that is the side of politics from whence I came, say that we should never intervene militarily?
I mean I can't understand why people would ever say that - we are talking here about countries in which the people are brutally repressed. This was the case in Afghanistan and it was the case in Iraq, don't tell me it wasn't.

The way we should look at it, is that it is our right and our duty to spread democracy and freedom. Why?
Because it is states that are repressed, that are dictatorial, that give their people no freedom, that don't allow them to exercise their democratic rights that in my experience and judgement are exactly the states which threaten and end up invading their neighbours.

Look no further than Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

Tony Blair, British Prime Minister
White House Garden, 2005.

IT'S ALL IN THE TIMING

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