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The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:18am

We can see clearly now through transparency lie

THE Greens have exposed themselves as just another political party.

Years of principled advocacy for transparency in government through broad Freedom of Information laws were jettisoned yesterday when Greens leader Christine Milne backed a Treasury decision to refuse the FOI release of taxpayer-funded costings of her own policies.

If such costings could be obtained under FOI, Senator Milne said, it would mean parties would be unable to "get a reliable costing to make a decision". The comment was neither logical nor consistent with the Greens long-claimed devotion to openness.

Also short on logic is the commonwealth's decision to keep the Greens' costings secret. How on earth could a Treasury costing of the policy of a party that is not even part of the government qualify for FOI exemption on the basis that it is a cabinet document or somehow forms part of the deliberative process of cabinet?

Taxpayers funded this work and ought to have a right to access what they paid for.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/we-can-see-clearly-now-...

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #1 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:20am Does this mean the Libs and Nats are going to finally release fully costed policies?
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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #2 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:21am What have the Greens got to hide?
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #3 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:26am Shane B wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:21am: What have the Greens got to hide? What has Abbott got to hide?
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #4 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:40am adelcrow wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:26am: Shane B wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:21am: What have the Greens got to hide? What has Abbott got to hide? C'mon adel, don't be like that. Abbott has NOTHING to hide. If he ever gets policies .. well then... THEN he'll have something to hide.
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Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Reply #5 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:42am

Gist wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Shane B wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

What have the Greens got to hide?

What has Abbott got to hide?

C'mon adel, don't be like that. Abbott has NOTHING to hide.

If he ever gets policies .. well then... THEN he'll have something to hide.

We all know what the Greens policies are, before and after each election but what are Abbotts policies and where are the costings so we can all make an informed decision.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #6 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:47am The Greens do not advocate for environmental protectionism anymore they are lobbyists for the dissolution of the Australian nation state and represent as foreign agents.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58894 Here Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #7 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:47am adelcrow wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:20am: Does this mean the Libs and Nats are going to finally release fully costed policies? The Liberals have no costings, everyone knows that.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58894 Here Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #8 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:53am I don't recall any party ever releasing policy costings with the exception of election promises in an election campaign.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #9 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:00am lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #10 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:02am progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:00am: lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party. Show me where the Greens have lied like Gillard and Abbott
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #11 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:08am adelcrow wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:02am: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:00am: lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party. Show me where the Greens have lied like Gillard and Abbott calling themselves an environmental protection party...
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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #12 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 1:24pm Bump for Greens_Lose
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Guildford Gold Member Offline It's Only Me Posts: 500 SE Victoria Gender:	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #13 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 2:34pm my money is on labor releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites Reply #14 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 2:34pm Guildford wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 2:34pm: my money is on labour releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so accidental of course or at least untraceable to who.
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