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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #90 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

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And I bet that works well for you. Im sure every employer is just WAITING for the opportunity to give you everything you want. No they are not, that's why its important to be in a union. Less chance of getting ripped off. Wink

And do you currently have a job? Have yu had one in the last two years? You sound a lot like the perennial whinger who wants everything yet is remarkably unwilling to actually work for it.

I dont expect you to answer. lazy buggers like you rarely do.

alright madweekend we know it's you now !!

Give it up will you. You've been caught out the 2nd time in one week impersonating a tool using a different name Cheesy

LOL

Yes Nail,
First "Quantum" & now "Gold_medal".

Why can't Longweekend post as himself?

because everyone is sick of his bullsh.t on this forum and noone wants to back him up so he has to disguise himself and reply to his own posts with a different name and style but his bullshit still comes through Wink

you can abuse easily, but when it comes to debunking or debating other's opinions you are very poor. IN fact, I dont see you ever actually debay. You simple 'declare' and then abuse anyone who disagrees. Its not a good look.

ok then look at the poll results Wink

Nobody trusts ABORT !!

The poll results???? Are you kidding or is there a subtext I am missing?

Abbott is the preferred PM, more popular than Gillard and the odd-ons next PM. Exactly what are you trying to say here besides something silly?

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #91 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:58pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:59pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

This is a warning to Gillard, Abbott and any other would be globalist pig - if any of you introduce any further measures of economic aggression undermining the constitutional economic and territorial rights to security of Australian citizens on behalf of big business and foreign agencies I will personally pursue you in the courts until you are impeached and stripped of your parliamentary privileges and pension.... Cool

So - you've got a spare $2 million to fight it in the high court?
Didn't know you were that rich.

I dont need money to go to court - don't you know I can download all of the forms myself and file them....I am also gifted in understanding the Law... Cool

oh really? court is free? Hmmm... perhaps you should try it sometime and see how much court access you get for $100.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103110 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #92 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:02pm Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:41pm: The Government cant fine workers for Striking..they are bluffing - we will sue them for everything they have... They can - $5,000 per day.
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #93 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

thanks for that bobby,
its given me some more food for thought.
i like to get as many perspectives on things as i can.

i dont like tony either, i think he is a rudderless ship as well.
he may well hit an iceberg (named malcolm turnbull

)

adversarial politics is SO unhelpful , there has got to be a better way, just have to keep searching til we find it
cheers

It can also be fun.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #95 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 6:42am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

From the 7.30 report on Thursday 2nd August 2012 -
Tony Abbott has admitted to his workchoices round 2 changes.
He will be elected easily so brace yourselves.
Watch the video & see the truth.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3559580.htm

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TONY ABBOTT:They will be careful, cautious, prudent, responsible changes within the framework of the existing act and they will be based on addressing problems, not applying ideology.

CHRIS UHLMANN: And Labor would like nothing better than to drag the Coalition into another workplace battle.

BILL SHORTEN: Let's use this release of this report to have a fair dinkum, no-nonsense, no secrets, what's up - show everything that's up your sleeves debate in front of the public: the Coalition way about workplace relations or the Labor way and let the people decide.

CHRIS UHLMANN: It's a debate the union movement is desperate to have.

TIM LYONS: Eventually the Coalition is gonna have to come up and say to the Australian people what their actual view about workplace relations is. And of course what we'll judge them on and what I think the Australian people will judge them on is not so much on what they say now, but on what they did.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The claim and counter-claim in this debate looks set to make headlines for as long as there are papers.

Do you trust Tony Abbott?

Nice selective quoting there. You missed this bit...

"TONY ABBOTT, OPPOSITION LEADER (July, 2010): The legislation will not change and WorkChoices is dead, buried, cremated."

So please enlighten us - where does he mention bringing back WorkChoices or a new version of it?

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #96 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:04am

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Nice selective quoting there. You missed this bit...

"TONY ABBOTT, OPPOSITION LEADER (July, 2010): The legislation will not change and WorkChoices is dead, buried, cremated."

So please enlighten us - where does he mention bringing back WorkChoices or a new version of it?

He doesn't use that word - silly -
he wouldn't dare use that word -
he uses a euphemism - changes.

Intelligent people can see through the charade.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #97 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:06am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:04am:

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Nice selective quoting there. You missed this bit...

"TONY ABBOTT, OPPOSITION LEADER (July, 2010): The legislation will not change and WorkChoices is dead, buried, cremated."

So please enlighten us - where does he mention bringing back WorkChoices or a new version of it?

He doesn't use that word - silly -
he wouldn't dare use that word -
he uses a euphemism - changes.

Intelligent people can see through the charade.

What's wrong with changing something that clearly is not working?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103110 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #98 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:09am Quote: What's wrong with changing something that clearly is not working? Nothing - it's just that those changes are secret. Why doesn't he come clean & tell us? Answer: he wants to bring back even more harsh laws against employees & he would lose votes if he told the truth.
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #99 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:16am

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Do you trust Tony Abbott?

Not as far as I could throw him.
If this guy wants to bring back workchoices ( No choices ) get ready for union trouble.
We have been down that road before Tony, and we don't want to go down it again. Sad

Hi Crook,
it seems that the poll on this thread agrees with you.

5 people trust him.
13 people don't trust him.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #100 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:46am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

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What's wrong with changing something that clearly is not working?

Nothing - it's just that those changes are secret.
Why doesn't he come clean & tell us?

Answer:
he wants to bring back even more harsh laws against employees
& he would lose votes if he told the truth.

What "secrets"? Those were Shorten's words, not Abbott's. Lets face it, Shorten isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer so I don't know why you're putting so much faith in what that moron says.

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Reply #101 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:54am

Abbott is part of the hard line ultra right of the Liberal Party and owes his job to the power brokers of that faction so we all know draconian workplace laws that treat workers as no more than bonded slaves are only around the corner when he rises to power.
Only a fool wouldn't join a union when these hardliners grab power.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #102 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:55am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

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What's wrong with changing something that clearly is not working?

Nothing - it's just that those changes are secret.
Why doesn't he come clean & tell us?

Answer:
he wants to bring back even more harsh laws against employees
& he would lose votes if he told the truth.

What "secrets"? Those were Shorten's words, not Abbott's. Lets face it, Shorten isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer so I don't know why you're putting so much faith in what that moron says.

If you are going to put Abbnott and Shorten in the same sentance it is difficult to justify insulting Shortan's inteligence when you have put dumber right there next to him..

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #104 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:00am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

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What's wrong with changing something that clearly is not working?

Nothing - it's just that those changes are secret.
Why doesn't he come clean & tell us?

Answer:
he wants to bring back even more harsh laws against employees
& he would lose votes if he told the truth.

What "secrets"? Those were Shorten's words, not Abbott's. Lets face it, Shorten isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer so I don't know why you're putting so much faith in what that moron says.

If you are going to put Abbnott and Shorten in the same sentance it is difficult to justify insulting Shortan's inteligence when you have put dumber right there next to him..

Abbott is a Rhodes Scholar, Shorten is an ex-Union hack. Abbott doesn't blindly follow, whereas Shorten adopts his boss' view despite having no freaking idea what it is. Yeah, Shorten is definitely the dumbest politician by a long shot. Shorten wins Gold, Silver and Bronze in that event. I'll take Abbott over Shorten as PM any day.

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Question: Do you trust Tony Abbott?
yes 7 (26.9%) no 18 (69.2%) not sure 1 (3.8%) Total votes: 26 « Created by: Bobby. on: Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:19am »