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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #210 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 1:06pm You need to appreciate the difference between paying industry standard for your SLT members and paying additional headcount for no reason. One if worked into your budget, the other is completely additional to operating at optimum, which is what we commit to shareholders.
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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #211 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 1:27pm If you cant accomodate part time workers then you have failed middle management. When you are released from jail Andrei, perhaps another line of work would be more suited to you "abilities". Politics is a great career for the stubborn and lazy.
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #212 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

I actively care about the company, its goals, my divisions and their staff and all of the other things.

But to have legislation in Australia where an employee can come back after taking off 12 months and tell us they will only work 2 or 3 days and we have to accommodate that is beyond absurd.

We are giving them off 12 months, the role is kept open.
That's how it works here. Why should they change the role and why should they be able to?

Do you not see the issue with that?

Maybe you should rename yourself Mr Inflexible. It's one thing to disagree with a policy but you seem uniquely incapable of coping with it. it's just all too hard for you!

Longweekend/Gold ,
you've lost the poll - 5 to 16. (even with your double vote)

We don't trust Abbott.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #213 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

I actively care about the company, its goals, my divisions and their staff and all of the other things.

But to have legislation in Australia where an employee can come back after taking off 12 months and tell us they will only work 2 or 3 days and we have to accommodate that is beyond absurd.

We are giving them off 12 months, the role is kept open.
That's how it works here. Why should they change the role and why should they be able to?

Do you not see the issue with that?

Maybe you should rename yourself Mr Inflexible. It's one thing to disagree with a policy but you seem uniquely incapable of coping with it. it's just all too hard for you!

Longweekend/Gold ,
you've lost the poll - 5 to 16. (even with your double vote)

We don't trust Abbott.

None of us want to pay the bill for labors criminal economic negligence again either so my suggestion is that we all as citizens sue these rouge citizens who assumed political power and abused it recklessly and we all seek personal damages from them...think of it if we all went after Gillard, Rudd, Garrett, Combet, Browne, Bandt, Hanson-Young and Milne and made them pay the legal & financial consequences of their actions!!!

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #214 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 5:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

I actively care about the company, its goals, my divisions and their staff and all of the other things.

But to have legislation in Australia where an employee can come back after taking off 12 months and tell us they will only work 2 or 3 days and we have to accommodate that is beyond absurd.

We are giving them off 12 months, the role is kept open.
That's how it works here. Why should they change the role and why should they be able to?

Do you not see the issue with that?

Maybe you should rename yourself Mr Inflexible. It's one thing to disagree with a policy but you seem uniquely incapable of coping with it. it's just all too hard for you!

Longweekend/Gold ,
you've lost the poll - 5 to 16. (even with your double vote)

We don't trust Abbott.

Imagine how much I dont care about a poll of 21 votes conducted online. it has a margin of error of 100% and a validity of nil. The sad thing is that this has to be explained to you.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #215 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:49pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

I actively care about the company, its goals, my divisions and their staff and all of the other things.

But to have legislation in Australia where an employee can come back after taking off 12 months and tell us they will only work 2 or 3 days and we have to accommodate that is beyond absurd.

We are giving them off 12 months, the role is kept open.
That's how it works here. Why should they change the role and why should they be able to?

Do you not see the issue with that?

Maybe you should rename yourself Mr Inflexible. It's one thing to disagree with a policy but you seem uniquely incapable of coping with it. it's just all too hard for you!

Longweekend/Gold ,
you've lost the poll - 5 to 16. (even with your double vote)

We don't trust Abbott.

Imagine how much I dont care about a poll of 21 votes conducted online. it has a margin of error of 100% and a validity of nil. The sad thing is that this has to be explained to you.

Hi Longy,
I just thought I'd take a dig at you knowing
in advance who you'd vote for. Grin

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #216 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 3:46am

Australian workers can begin initiating personal and collective lawsuits against Tony Abbott for his stated intent to interfere with their free right to collectively bargain. This is an intent to abuse his position of power for personal ideological and class warfare reasons and interfere with constitutional economic freedoms...Lets all target Tony Abbott to defend our economic rights...

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #217 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

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Reply #218 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

Nowadays everyone is fooken disadvantaged if he doesn't have his life exactly as he dreamed it when he was 10.

I am sick of the 'disadvantaged'. For them everything is someone else's fooken responsibility.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #219 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:43pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

Your industrial relations laws are a joke and need changing.
This isn't the 1970s anymore.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #220 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:46pm Lets all sue Tony Abbott for conspiracy against our legal economic rights and seeking to abuse the parliament to abolish them, for class warfare and misconduct...
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #221 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:46pm

Soren wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

Nowadays everyone is fooken disadvantaged if he doesn't have his life exactly as he dreamed it when he was 10.

I am sick of the 'disadvantaged'. For them everything is someone else's fooken responsibility.

I dream of continuing in my job until I'm ready to throw it in. I dream of keeping my pay and conditions just as they are. I dream of regular pay reviews and rises in line with my contribution to the organisation. I'd be disadvantaged if Lieberals make any kind of change to those dreams.

And I don't see why I shouldn't argue very loudly to make sure they don't.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #222 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 4:09pm

Soren wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

Nowadays everyone is fooken disadvantaged if he doesn't have his life exactly as he dreamed it when he was 10.

I am sick of the 'disadvantaged'. For them everything is someone else's fooken responsibility.

Why would you vote for someone who you know is going to belt you over the head with a baseball bat if elected?

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #223 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 4:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be

Yes and if you want to see some drastic changes which will disadvantage workers vote for Tnoy or if you are a worker and think that your pay levels and working conditions are too generous then Tnoy can and will fix that for you.

Nowadays everyone is fooken disadvantaged if he doesn't have his life exactly as he dreamed it when he was 10.

I am sick of the 'disadvantaged'. For them everything is someone else's fooken responsibility.

Why would you vote for someone who you know is going to belt you over the head with a baseball bat if elected?

Such as Barak Obama has you mean?

In comparison I quite like the Liberal Party policies - I am a working class middle of the road fella, not a rich CEO by any means.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103114 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #224 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:01am Andrei, Quote: In comparison I quite like the Liberal Party policies. What are Tony's policies? All we know is that he's going to stop the boats & he's bringing back workchoices.
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