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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #240 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:35pm We will lock the anti labor regulation activists so deep in law suits they will beg for peace - but there shall be no peace for woe has come on the Earth...
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #241 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:20pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 3:39pm:

Soren - that is a strawman fallacy argument.

We want to be competitive - we just don't want
workers to be exploited by Libbo bosses.

methinks that is the only debating terminology you know while clearly not understanding it!

Gold/Longy,
you use the strawman fallacy all the time.

It's explained for you on Ozpolitcs page here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/logical-fallacies.html#strawman

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strawman

This term is probably a reference to the middle ages, when people would build scarecrows stuffed with straw to use for military training. Strawmen are easy to defeat. In debates, people will often misrepresent the argument of their opposition, then gleefully shoot it down. Rather than explaining yourself again, just call it for what it is (provided of course you explained yourself clearly the first time).

People can set up sock puppets to pose as straw men. That is, creating a profile that disagrees with you, but makes such a poor argument that you ‘win’ the debate. Then you can point out to your detractors that you have already shown their argument to be lacking. You can even let someone else do the refuting, and just pass yourself of as ‘the enemy’ – a particularly stupid one.

McDonalds has made very good use of straw men in its recent advertising campaign where it 'debunks' a lot of the criticism made against its 'food'. For example, they debunk the myth that they're burgers are not 100% beef (ie, no car parts or fertiliser), without addressing in any meaningful way the real issue of the fat content and quality of that beef.

But funnily enough it is the ONLY logical fallacy you ever complain about while indulging in such incredible illogical statements of all kinds.

You often try to 'prove the rule by exception' which should be pretty embarrassing for anyone who claims a university education as you do. And there are other logical errors. Plus there is you sychophancy... (look it up).

WTF does that mean ??

And your obsession with other peoples qualifications certainly shows your insecurity about your own or that you don't actually have any !!

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103107 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #242 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:22pm Longweekend - you're a fake. .
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #243 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:30pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 3:39pm:

Soren - that is a strawman fallacy argument.

We want to be competitive - we just don't want
workers to be exploited by Libbo bosses.

methinks that is the only debating terminology you know while clearly not understanding it!

Gold/Longy,
you use the strawman fallacy all the time.

It's explained for you on Ozpolitcs page here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/logical-fallacies.html#strawman

Quote:

strawman

This term is probably a reference to the middle ages, when people would build scarecrows stuffed with straw to use for military training. Strawmen are easy to defeat. In debates, people will often misrepresent the argument of their opposition, then gleefully shoot it down. Rather than explaining yourself again, just call it for what it is (provided of course you explained yourself clearly the first time).

People can set up sock puppets to pose as straw men. That is, creating a profile that disagrees with you, but makes such a poor argument that you ‘win’ the debate. Then you can point out to your detractors that you have already shown their argument to be lacking. You can even let someone else do the refuting, and just pass yourself of as ‘the enemy’ – a particularly stupid one.

McDonalds has made very good use of straw men in its recent advertising campaign where it 'debunks' a lot of the criticism made against its 'food'. For example, they debunk the myth that they're burgers are not 100% beef (ie, no car parts or fertiliser), without addressing in any meaningful way the real issue of the fat content and quality of that beef.

But funnily enough it is the ONLY logical fallacy you ever complain about while indulging in such incredible illogical statements of all kinds.

You often try to 'prove the rule by exception' which should be pretty embarrassing for anyone who claims a university education as you do. And there are other logical errors. Plus there is you sychophancy... (look it up).

WTF does that mean ??

And your obsession with other peoples qualifications certainly shows your insecurity about your own or that you don't actually have any !!

OOPS!!! you just replied to a bobby-directed comment as lastnail. Did you forget which ID you were logged on other?

You are not a very clever sock puppet, are you?

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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #244 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #245 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:34pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm: and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again. Are you long weekend ,gold medal?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103107 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #246 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:34pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm: and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again. What a hypocrite. You're the sock puppet.
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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #247 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:39pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:34pm: gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm: and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again. What a hypocrite. You're the sock puppet. Ouch... the devastating power of your argument... Ive just been 'flogged' by wet lettuce.
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #248 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:40pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.

What a hypocrite.
You're the sock puppet.

Ouch... the devastating power of your argument...

Ive just been 'flogged' by wet lettuce.

You bear false witness against your neighbour -
that's a mortal sin.

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gold_medal

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #249 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 8:30am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:40pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.

What a hypocrite.
You're the sock puppet.

Ouch... the devastating power of your argument...

Ive just been 'flogged' by wet lettuce.

You bear false witness against your neighbour -
that's a mortal sin.

qhe?

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Bobby.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #250 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 8:34am

Hi Gold/Longweekend,

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The Eight Commandment
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." The eighth commandment forbids misinterpreting the truth in our relations with others. This moral prescription flows from the vocation of the holy people to bear witness to their God who is the truth and wills the truth.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58162 Here Gender:	Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2. Reply #251 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:18am gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm: and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again. You take a nice Picture GM.
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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #252 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:23am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.

You take a nice Picture GM.

Longweekend has committed a mortal sin.
Unless he repents his own bible tells him
that he will burn forever in hellfire & damnation.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #253 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:39am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.

You take a nice Picture GM.

Longweekend has committed a mortal sin.
Unless he repents his own bible tells him
that he will burn forever in hellfire & damnation.

People that hide behind socks have no right to call others liars or to moralise

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Bobby.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #254 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:46am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

and the sockpuppets - lastnail and bobby are back on TOGETHER again.

You take a nice Picture GM.

Longweekend has committed a mortal sin.
Unless he repents his own bible tells him
that he will burn forever in hellfire & damnation.

People that hide behind socks have no right to call others liars or to moralise

Longweekend does,
he's not a very good advertisment for his own Libbo party -
so dishonest & sneaky.

Not only that he's a full on christian - who believes in the Bible
& goes to church every Sunday ( in his V8 car ) to pray.

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