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Reply #30 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

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the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

Because it wasnt unconstitutional or against any other laws.

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Reply #31 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

Because it wasnt unconstitutional or against any other laws.

And its coming back to a workplace near you Grin

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Reply #32 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Gold,
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in fact MOST dont rip you off. They do however expect you to work and to work hard. That perhaps is the problem for the whiny sooks on here for whom employment seems a bit too hard if it actually involves WORK.

Gold,
You are champion at avoiding the points I raised.
Have another go.
I'm not going to let you get away with this.

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One problem is that Liar Gillard never got
rid of all the workchoices rubbish. e.g.
You no longer have a right to withdraw your labor -
huge fines can result if you go on strike.

Redundancy pay was reduced from 2 weeks for every
year served to a maximum of 12 weeks pay. e.g.
If you worked 20 years before you would get 40 weeks pay.
Now you get only max 12 weeks pay.
What else?

Im not sure quite why you think I have any obligation to address and and every point you raise which is outside the thrust of the thread. The thread topic is about the idiotic claim of WorkChoices being revived. If you stick to the topic I will respond. If you go on some lunatic tangent I wont.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #33 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:34pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

Because it wasnt unconstitutional or against any other laws.

And its coming back to a workplace near you Grin

well actually it isnt. thats the fabricated loser nonses so endemic in leftie-quarters. You wouldnt know what to do if you werent lying about the opposition or planning to abrogate the rights of voters and hoping for a little Chavez-style 'democracy'.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #34 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:36pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

With Abbotts policies of massive job cuts, huge cost of winding back everything Labor has introduced over 6 yrs in govt, surpluses every year, welfare for the super rich, wrecking foreign investment and workchoices 2 all when the world is plunging into another recession but this time including the Asian region Australia will be in another Great Depression that will make the 1930's look like a picnic.
I dont want any neo cons complaining about lining up at soup kitchens and tucking their kids into bed under a cardboard box in the local park.

loony paranoid leftie #1

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #35 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

With Abbotts policies of massive job cuts, huge cost of winding back everything Labor has introduced over 6 yrs in govt, surpluses every year, welfare for the super rich, wrecking foreign investment and workchoices 2 all when the world is plunging into another recession but this time including the Asian region Australia will be in another Great Depression that will make the 1930's look like a picnic.
I dont want any neo cons complaining about lining up at soup kitchens and tucking their kids into bed under a cardboard box in the local park.

Well said Adel,

Tony will plunge us into a great depression.

loony paranoid leftie #2

any more want to jump on the depression bandwagon and expose your own mental illness?

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #36 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:27pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

dream on sunshine !!

It won't be called Workchoices. It will be called something else so they can get away with their lies of not reinstating it Sad

It's the same rust just with a different coat of paint covering it Sad

Another leftie trait: blatant hypocrisy. Leftie labor promises no carbon tax and then gives one. and now complain about the breach of a liberal promise that hasnt even happened.

Do you realise just how silly and pathetic you are? Why dont you come back and complain if workchoices IS reinstated. Of course the problem is that will require integrity to determine if it is workchoices rather than just a few industrial legislation changes.

Integrity: yet another attribute lefties talk about, long for yet have none of.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #37 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:41pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Gold,
Quote:

in fact MOST dont rip you off. They do however expect you to work and to work hard. That perhaps is the problem for the whiny sooks on here for whom employment seems a bit too hard if it actually involves WORK.

Gold,
You are champion at avoiding the points I raised.
Have another go.
I'm not going to let you get away with this.

Quote:

One problem is that Liar Gillard never got
rid of all the workchoices rubbish. e.g.
You no longer have a right to withdraw your labor -
huge fines can result if you go on strike.

Redundancy pay was reduced from 2 weeks for every
year served to a maximum of 12 weeks pay. e.g.
If you worked 20 years before you would get 40 weeks pay.
Now you get only max 12 weeks pay.
What else?

Im not sure quite why you think I have any obligation to address and and every point you raise which is outside the thrust of the thread. The thread topic is about the idiotic claim of WorkChoices being revived. If you stick to the topic I will respond. If you go on some lunatic tangent I wont.

It's not a tangent - that's the crap that Tony & his mate Howard left us with.
You think he'll do better next time?

Even Labor didn't get rid of such lunatic laws.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #38 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:43pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

With Abbotts policies of massive job cuts, huge cost of winding back everything Labor has introduced over 6 yrs in govt, surpluses every year, welfare for the super rich, wrecking foreign investment and workchoices 2 all when the world is plunging into another recession but this time including the Asian region Australia will be in another Great Depression that will make the 1930's look like a picnic.
I dont want any neo cons complaining about lining up at soup kitchens and tucking their kids into bed under a cardboard box in the local park.

Well said Adel,

Tony will plunge us into a great depression.

loony paranoid leftie #2

any more want to jump on the depression bandwagon and expose your own mental illness?

See you in the soup kitchen line Gold.
Abbott will destroy this country.

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #39 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

The fair work act and workchoices are both unconstitutional and the High Court would throw them out, these reforms are forced through illegally by foreign agents acting on behalf of overseas unelected NGO's.....

2DS

the High Court would throw them out,

Workchoices won in the high court when it was challenged.

With Abbotts policies of massive job cuts, huge cost of winding back everything Labor has introduced over 6 yrs in govt, surpluses every year, welfare for the super rich, wrecking foreign investment and workchoices 2 all when the world is plunging into another recession but this time including the Asian region Australia will be in another Great Depression that will make the 1930's look like a picnic.
I dont want any neo cons complaining about lining up at soup kitchens and tucking their kids into bed under a cardboard box in the local park.

Well said Adel,

Tony will plunge us into a great depression.

Yep it will be another 10 years of the dark ages again under ABORT.

We'll have NO-Choices, work for the dole scams, 2nd generation dial up internet and another bogeyman and a WAR on ERRROR trying to find the non existent Weapons of Mass Deception !!

I can hardly wait for ABORT Sad

These libbos are deadbeats aren't they Sad

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #40 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:27pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Wow you lefties can be paranoid dunces! There is no Workchoices. There is the possibility of some industrial relations legisltaion changes just as every government has done every time. Or are you trying to say that Fiarwork is so good it needs no changes? Is that why they had a review which was the best example of a government-intiated review in that all the panel could do is say the FW was doing what was intended, not whther it was any good or not.

Get over it. Industrial relations changes are part of life and always will be.

dream on sunshine !!

It won't be called Workchoices. It will be called something else so they can get away with their lies of not reinstating it Sad

It's the same rust just with a different coat of paint covering it Sad

Another leftie trait: blatant hypocrisy. Leftie labor promises no carbon tax and then gives one. and now complain about the breach of a liberal promise that hasnt even happened.

Do you realise just how silly and pathetic you are? Why dont you come back and complain if workchoices IS reinstated. Of course the problem is that will require integrity to determine if it is workchoices rather than just a few industrial legislation changes.

Integrity: yet another attribute lefties talk about, long for yet have none of.

A few industrial legislation changes - my arse it will be !!

Get your nose out of The Australian newspaper mate because you're starting to sound like a disciple !!

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Reply #41 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

They are deadbeats Nail.

What do Tony & his Libbo mates stand for?

- Workchoices
- No Vision for the future
- Luddite mentality
- keeping everyone in the dark and in the past
- Zero career prospects for people
- Low education standards
- Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects
- Making lame excuses to do nothing
- Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs
- Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds
- Set fire to coal mentality at any cost
- Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences
- Do not promote excellence
- Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them
- Dumb down the population and the media
- Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services
- A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens
- Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members

as well as:

- The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer.
- They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories.
- They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well.
- The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation.
- The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality.
- This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person.
- The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher.
- A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside

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Reply #42 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

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And I bet that works well for you. Im sure every employer is just WAITING for the opportunity to give you everything you want. No they are not, that's why its important to be in a union. Less chance of getting ripped off. Wink

And do you currently have a job? Have yu had one in the last two years? You sound a lot like the perennial whinger who wants everything yet is remarkably unwilling to actually work for it.

I dont expect you to answer. lazy buggers like you rarely do.

alright madweekend we know it's you now !!

Give it up will you. You've been caught out the 2nd time in one week impersonating a tool using a different name Cheesy

LOL

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Reply #43 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

Quote:

And I bet that works well for you. Im sure every employer is just WAITING for the opportunity to give you everything you want. No they are not, that's why its important to be in a union. Less chance of getting ripped off. Wink

And do you currently have a job? Have yu had one in the last two years? You sound a lot like the perennial whinger who wants everything yet is remarkably unwilling to actually work for it.

I dont expect you to answer. lazy buggers like you rarely do.

alright madweekend we know it's you now !!

Give it up will you. You've been caught out the 2nd time in one week impersonating a tool using a different name Cheesy

LOL

Yes Nail,
First "Quantum" & now "Gold_medal".

Why can't Longweekend post as himself?

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Re: Tony admits WORKCHOICES round 2.
Reply #44 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Gold,
Quote:

in fact MOST dont rip you off. They do however expect you to work and to work hard. That perhaps is the problem for the whiny sooks on here for whom employment seems a bit too hard if it actually involves WORK.

Gold,
You are champion at avoiding the points I raised.
Have another go.
I'm not going to let you get away with this.

Quote:

One problem is that Liar Gillard never got
rid of all the workchoices rubbish. e.g.
You no longer have a right to withdraw your labor -
huge fines can result if you go on strike.

Redundancy pay was reduced from 2 weeks for every
year served to a maximum of 12 weeks pay. e.g.
If you worked 20 years before you would get 40 weeks pay.
Now you get only max 12 weeks pay.
What else?

Im not sure quite why you think I have any obligation to address and and every point you raise which is outside the thrust of the thread. The thread topic is about the idiotic claim of WorkChoices being revived. If you stick to the topic I will respond. If you go on some lunatic tangent I wont.

It's not a tangent - that's the crap that Tony & his mate Howard left us with.
You think he'll do better next time?

Even Labor didn't get rid of such lunatic laws.

Why is it that basic facts so elude you? those laws you refer to are LABOR'S laws. FairWork is labors work not liberals. Next time you throw a tanty how about addressing it properly next time?

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