Abbott will call a DD and wipe the Greens and ALP out in the senate or the High Court will strike the illegal Carbon Tax down.  Any Australian citizen btw can sue the Greens for millions for campaigning openly against their legal constitutional rights...I suggest you all start doing it if you want financial justice cause by hardship illegally imposed by Greens Party activism...

if we take the Carbon Tax to the High Court we will bring down your entire illegal globalist house of cards apparatus...

bobby and nail,

i still cant quite understand what it is about a flexible job market that you find so worrying.
you call tony a luddite and think that the greens and labour are the progressive side of politics.

but humankind gave up collective bargaining when they moved out of serfdom and started to work under their own steam (the age of the individual, the renaisance).

i am told that when african american slaves were freed , some  did not rejoice, they wanted the security of being a slave,

sure, the big wild world can be a bit scarey but you can do it.
honestly you can.

now i dont vote liberal because they have abandoned small business as far as i can see.

but i have some clients who i am so proud of.
i'll just mention 2

one a 16 yo girl from a family of drug addicts who has worked incredibly hard and now owns 3 dunkin donuts franchises at the age of 25.

another a kid they tried to put on the disability pension because he is illiterate but he is a damn good bulldozer driver and he just paid off his first house at the age of 27.

you dont have to be a slave to this negativity.
work choices, life choices.  i really hope that people can get behind kids like this because THEY are the future.

dont say its just a libbo dream. if you kill off this sort of aspiration with the current adversarial games that both sides play, a terrible negative karma will rain down upon you.

get positive, lend a hand,

if youre a lib , mentor someone in small business
if youre in labour, go and help upskill a sacked ford worker
if youre a greenie. go and clean up the local creek and
please dont think keyboard abuse advances your cause.

batty, you are going to have to present much better arguements to convince me to vote green

Any further imposition of market aggression on Australian citizens will; cost its architects and big business billions and prolly jail terms for conspiracy against citizens constitutional rights..

Peter Reith could prolly be charged right now with sedition and waging a campaign of terror against the Australian people and their constitutional rights...that prick would be one of the first, easy Targets to pick off in legal action...Any Australian citizen can take legal action against Peter Reith if they believe his ideological activism threatens their economic and social security as citizens...

apologies

misread your name as bobby the bat.

my bad

local kayak club organize 2 clean up the bay days every year.
would the green party like to get involved.
they can pm me for the link.

redundancy pay .
grow your business with a good staff and you'll never have to make people redundant.
strikes,  eeek,  treat people right and they wont strike.

enterprise bargaining is a good thing, i cant see whats wrong with
working hard then going to your employer and asking for more, if he doesnt give it to you, leave.

no need to involve all these complex regulations and rules.
free up the workplace so the drivers of economic growth can get ahead.

i think your very much mistaken if you think most workers in small business are unhappy and would rather work in an antagonistic union workforce or the public service.

most public servants i speak to always seem a bit down, a bit blue, a bit like a rudderless ship.
i try to mentor them too that if they arent feeling the love, there's plenty of good bosses who will take them on.

the days of one job for life have rightly or wrongly gone.

get skills, get a positive attitude, get ahead.
you dont need all this worrying about redundancies etc,  that sounds like someone planning for failure.
you dont need talk of strikes, that sounds like someone planning for a fight.

lose lose bobby.

thanks for that bobby,
its given me some more food for thought.
i like to get as many perspectives on things as i can.

i dont like tony either, i think he is a rudderless ship as well.
he may well hit an iceberg (named malcolm turnbull )

adversarial politics is SO unhelpful , there has got to be a better way, just have to keep searching til we find it
cheers