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Reply #15 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:46am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

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Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

Perhaps Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices if Labor had been far more competent in running the state. That is, after all, one of the reasons Bligh and her government was anhilated - the state is effectively broke.

Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices

These are not tough decisions for a conservative - it is their SOP (standard operating procedure) it is just what they do.

If you think it's easy for anyone to make a decision that leaves men and women without a job, affecting their families as well, then you have no idea. I bet you've never even run your own business, so you probably haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

Showing how tough they are and belting the unions in the process - they all do it and enjoy themselves in the process.

When Newman's finished with Queensland no one there will have a job so it will be welcome to 1950's backwater Queensland courtesy of Campbell Newman.
Lets face it Newman panicked when he saw how massive the Queensland budget is, the huge and diverse income the state now achieves after two decades of massive growth and how large his responsibilities are.

... how enormous the amount of debt Bligh left behind is.

And how does this debt shape up when compared with the income of the state and the projected income for the next few decades?
Debt should always be monitored and paid down over time but unless you want no roads, bridges and infrastructure ever built and no investment into the future a growing country and state will always have some debt.
Its prudent to spread the costs over the generations that benefit from these projects rather than leave future generations nothing but dirt roads and pre industrial era crumbling infrastructure.
Anyone that buys this no debt is good crap when it comes to running states and countries is dooming themselves to a third class existence
Lets face it,,Newman is out of his depth and clueless as how to run a massive and growing economy like Queensland

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Reply #17 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke.... Grin

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Reply #18 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:35am

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke.... Grin

Good luck getting your disability pension paid without a public servant processing it

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Reply #19 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:40am

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke....

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I have worked in both private and public employment and found many of the best workers in the public side of the fence. There is good and bad on both sides but the nepotism and corruption in the private sector is incredable. Funny comparison is that in the private sector the most lazy and useless employees seem to be further up the chain.

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Reply #20 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:40am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:35am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke.... Grin

Good luck getting your disability pension paid without a public servant processing it

We can get community volunteers to do that.... Cool

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Reply #21 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:45am

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:40am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:35am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke.... Grin

Good luck getting your disability pension paid without a public servant processing it

We can get community volunteers to do that.... Cool

And what would be the motivation of these tens of thousands of volunteers taking up the work of previously paid govt employees?
The sheer enjoyment of grinding through an 8hr working day for no pay?

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Reply #22 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

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Reply #23 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

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Reply #24 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

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Reply #25 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:02am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breat cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Why would Queensland not pay down debt?
The question is...why kill the women of the state just so Newman can pay debt down sooner than it needs be?
If its beyond Newman to walk and chew gum at the same time then heaven help the sunshine state

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Reply #26 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

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Reply #27 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:07am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

It would seem the labor/union marriage is more burdensome than without it.

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Reply #28 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:11am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

Yeah, but we'll have nice race tracks.

This is appalling, handing over the life saving job of this well run organisation to the bungling bureaucrats that run our public hospitals.

I thought you had already hit the bottom Newman, now you have, you low down woman hater....I hope you don't get away with this.

Come on women of Qld rise up, your very survival is at stake.
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Shock as LNP government winds up iconic statewide cancer service BreastScreen

BREASTSCREEN Queensland - the iconic statewide cancer service credited with saving thousands of lives - will be dismantled by the Newman Government.

The plan to break up the service, as well as bowel and cervical cancer programs, has shocked the Queensland Cancer Council, which now fears lives will be put at risk.

The state's 17 hospital and health boards will be given responsibility to co-ordinate and plan mammograms and other cancer tests.

They will be given a budget to provide services and set their own priorities for patient care. Board members will include clinicians, academics, small business owners and local identities.

It means BreastScreen Queensland, which has been operating for more than 20 years and last year had a budget of almost $44 million, will no longer centrally control mobile breast screening vans or radiographer staff relief pools. A spokesman for Health Minister Lawrence Springborg said services should be provided locally.

Cancer Council spokeswoman Anne Savage said the decision could compromise the effective delivery of a vital service for women.

"It is unclear whether the devolution of public health functions to hospital and health services could result in discretionary decision-making that doesn't conform to clinical guidelines and evidence-based screening practices," she said.

Breast cancer survivor Dianne Lewis, when told of the plan, had a simple message for Mr Newman: "Don't change the system that saved my life."

Today, Mrs Lewis, 50, has outlined her case in a letter to Mr Newman, whose Government plans to dismantle BreastScreen Queensland and devolve its functions to 17 new hospital and health boards.

The mother of three has penned a letter to Mr Newman.

"Please, please, please I am begging you on behalf of all Queenslanders do not make any changes...the system works how it is," she said

"I am living proof of that and by making changes you are putting peoples life's at risk."

It was BreastScreen Queensland that sent Mrs Lewis a letter in 2006 to remind her she was due for a routine check-up.

Shortly after her visit, she received a follow-up call asking her to come back. That was when the cancer was detected.

Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said no patient would be worse off and that mammograms were already provided in regional areas. She said patients would not notice any difference.

The head of Public Health and Social Work at Queensland University of Technology, MaryLou Fleming, said the model could fail because some health boards might not provide the same services or have the same priorities.

After community outrage today, Health Minister Lawrence Springborg issued a statement reassuring women that access to Breastscreen Queensland services would not change.

He said the only centralised functions of BQ not already delivered by health regions were mobile breastscreening vans and relief radiographers.

"These are the functions that will be devolved to regions under the restructure," Mr Springborg said.

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Reply #29 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:42am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:40am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:35am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.

Did he really think that the workers would just roll over for him, is he really that stupid.

I have never looked on the public service as workers what a funny idea almost as hilarious as football players sitting in the Trades Hall whining about their share in the millions in broadcasting revenue for the AFL - what a Joke.... Grin

Good luck getting your disability pension paid without a public servant processing it

We can get community volunteers to do that.... Cool

And what would be the motivation of these tens of thousands of volunteers taking up the work of previously paid govt employees?
The sheer enjoyment of grinding through an 8hr working day for no pay?

What was always the motivation of community - to repel your social Law and protect our citizens being exterminated....

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