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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #30 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:49am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

It would seem the labor/union marriage is more burdensome than without it.

Yep - we could go bak to a 60 hr 6 day week with no penalties or PH rates and sick leave with no pay and 1 weeks leave. When the Liberals talk about increased flexability they are talking about a move in that direction.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #31 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:52am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

It would seem the labor/union marriage is more burdensome than without it.

Yep - we could go bak to a 60 hr 6 day week with no penalties or PH rates and sick leave with no pay and 1 weeks leave. When the Liberals talk about increased flexability they are talking about a move in that direction.

We could have the big dykes running around controlling all things male as well, but that is hardly needed, just like your prehistoric union propaganda.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #32 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:53am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

It would seem the labor/union marriage is more burdensome than without it.

Yep - we could go bak to a 60 hr 6 day week with no penalties or PH rates and sick leave with no pay and 1 weeks leave. When the Liberals talk about increased flexability they are talking about a move in that direction.

Ive never seen one person who complains about unions refuse their annual leave, sick leave, superannuation, basic annual pay increases and workplace health and safety benefits.
Union haters should make a stand against these hard won benefits and refuse them

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #33 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:56am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

We the little people are sick of these unions getting bludging jobs off our dime. We are willing to pay them through dole money and support them, but we are sick and tired of going into debt so labor can get money off their union buds and their union buds get jobs/money from labor.

This over use of union people in government jobs by labor has got to stop. Get the union/labor marriage ended. It has and will continue to burden us.

Newman is really showing the unions by cutting funding to breast cancer screening..good one Campbell.
I wonder how pleased Queenslanders are going to be when their mothers, wives and daughters start dying in increasing numbers from breast cancer all because Newman is clueless.

It may be a slow road to what you said by making a country go broke, but that is exactly what this labor/union marriage is doing. Tell your labor buds to start getting competent with our money and stop the burdensome union marriage.

Lets say liberals kept the debt of labor as it is at the time of winning and then labor get back in. And again. And again. Where will the money come from to get breast cancer screening. There would be no money left after paying the interest on debt.

Workers set up the unions and also the Labor party - this was done because the employer groups were the only interests which were represented in government till that time. The Liberals would love to go back to that time.

In this instance it is a case of the workers seeing that unions are doing what they are there for to protect workers and at the very least to attempt to defend workers against this type of politically motivated unnecessary attack.

It would seem the labor/union marriage is more burdensome than without it.

Yep - we could go bak to a 60 hr 6 day week with no penalties or PH rates and sick leave with no pay and 1 weeks leave. When the Liberals talk about increased flexability they are talking about a move in that direction.

We could have the big dykes running around controlling all things male as well, but that is hardly needed, just like your prehistoric union propaganda.

You only need to look at the antics of Grubs Like Newman O'Farrell and T Abbnot to clearly see how important and relivant today that unions are.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #35 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:15am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

The best thing for the union movement is the rise of the hardline right wing extremists like Abbott, Heffernan and Robb.
You can either fight back or let them sell every Aussie worker into bonded slavery

The best thing for the people is to rise up against the unions and tell them to stop bankrupting us through the labor/union marriage.

Go on the dole and get supported by the people, not expect the people to pay you a 100k wage for stuff all.

The unions can be in the private sector, but get them out of the public sector where they bankrupt Australian finances.

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Reply #36 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:20am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

The best thing for the union movement is the rise of the hardline right wing extremists like Abbott, Heffernan and Robb.
You can either fight back or let them sell every Aussie worker into bonded slavery

The best thing for the people is to rise up against the unions and tell them to stop bankrupting us through the labor/union marriage.

Go on the dole and get supported by the people, not expect the people to pay you a 100k wage for stuff all.

I do agree that unions should never fund or have any affiliation to any political parties.
There are of course unions that are not a part of the ALP and do not fund any political parties but the ones that do should be ashamed of themselves

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Reply #37 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:23am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

The best thing for the union movement is the rise of the hardline right wing extremists like Abbott, Heffernan and Robb.
You can either fight back or let them sell every Aussie worker into bonded slavery

The best thing for the people is to rise up against the unions and tell them to stop bankrupting us through the labor/union marriage.

Go on the dole and get supported by the people, not expect the people to pay you a 100k wage for stuff all.

The unions can be in the private sector, but get them out of the public sector where they bankrupt Australian finances.

collective action is the constitutional right of the working class and nobody can ever force them to be isolated on individual contracts while the class enemy operates collectively, nice try but no cigar - abolish social law and corporatism and we'll talk... Cool

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Reply #38 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 11:30am

The working class can collectively seek to defend themselves and their constitutional rights from the class enemy in the political arena, they can also use their power and funds to isolate & target with court action individuals like Peter Reith whose ideological crusades threaten the constitutional economic rights of the working class....

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Reply #39 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:27am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:45am:

Queenslanders voted for someone without policies, experience or even a faint clue of how to run a state so now they are getting everything they deserve.
The banana benders made their own bed now they can lie in it and the same will happen to the rest of Australia if they vote for Abbott.
The hard liners in the conservative parties are trying as hard as they can to send this country into another Great Depression with their fear and hatred campaigns and clueless populist rhetoric.

GOT IT RIGHT THERE Sad

...Adelcrow.

I've just started reading this thread and we have the facts succinctly presented for us by you just a couple of posts in....
Well said,,, ....and all so sadly true.!!

I will continue to read the rest, but it's pretty plain to me what I'll be reading. Cool

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Reply #40 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:29am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

Perhaps Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices if Labor had been far more competent in running the state. That is, after all, one of the reasons Bligh and her government was anhilated - the state is effectively broke.

Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices

These are not tough decisions for a conservative - it is their SOP (standard operating procedure) it is just what they do.

EXACTLY.!!

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Reply #41 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:33am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Lets face it..Newman is probably a nice bloke but he has bitten off more than he can chew and is clueless when it comes to running a massive, diverse and vibrant economy like Queenslands.
Queenslanders are now embarrassed that they were conned by the LNP so I can understand why its going to take time for them to admit that they got it wrong when they voted for a clueless nobody with no policies.
Once Queenslanders get over the shock of what they have done Im sure the LNP will be a one term govt and the Newman mistake will be relegated to the bloopers reel.

Point One... He isn't a 'nice' bloke.
Point Two.. Don't expect too much of QLD voters. Basically we all long to live IN THE PAST. !!

Well not me...I didn't vote for the a/hole, and was very unhappy to see how stupid people actually are. I had expected a better out come for 'people'.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #42 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:35am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:19am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

Perhaps Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices if Labor had been far more competent in running the state. That is, after all, one of the reasons Bligh and her government was anhilated - the state is effectively broke.

Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices

These are not tough decisions for a conservative - it is their SOP (standard operating procedure) it is just what they do.

If you think it's easy for anyone to make a decision that leaves men and women without a job, affecting their families as well, then you have no idea. I bet you've never even run your own business, so you probably haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

Newman is clueless and Queenslanders are embarrassed that they let the LNP con them..that will all be fixed at the next election

Well, as you like to say about Federal politics, there is a LONG time until the next QLD election and plenty of time for things to turn around.

Lets see how long it takes for Queenslanders to get over the shock of what they have done.
They may just do to Newman what the Italians did to Mussolini if he doesnt pull his socks up.

Well don't know about socks

But I'd gladly throw a pair of Blundstones at the mug.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #43 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:45am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

Perhaps Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices if Labor had been far more competent in running the state. That is, after all, one of the reasons Bligh and her government was anhilated - the state is effectively broke.

Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices

These are not tough decisions for a conservative - it is their SOP (standard operating procedure) it is just what they do.

If you think it's easy for anyone to make a decision that leaves men and women without a job, affecting their families as well, then you have no idea. I bet you've never even run your own business, so you probably haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

Showing how tough they are and belting the unions in the process - they all do it and enjoy themselves in the process.

When Newman's finished with Queensland no one there will have a job so it will be welcome to 1950's backwater Queensland courtesy of Campbell Newman.
Lets face it Newman panicked when he saw how massive the Queensland budget is, the huge and diverse income the state now achieves after two decades of massive growth and how large his responsibilities are.

... how enormous the amount of debt Bligh left behind is.

Phew got to the next page!! ARMPIT Again!! Roll Eyes

Good grief.!!

WHAT??? you mean according to Peter Costello and Campbell Newman.???
Right,, yeah sure ok .... Roll Eyes

They are real trust worthy aren't they? Eh? Eh?

I'll bet you there are thousands of hardworking QLD public servants, who voted for the mutt, foolishly, ...and are now facing the reality of their choice.!! No job.

What did they expect from an LNP govt.??
Clearly not what they GOT.

And many small but very helpful, small local grants to do with school children, for example, and their issues, have been cut. Really piss ant amounts ie less than 100K ...but priceless to the communities.

But THAT IS THE POINT.!!

The LNP don't really care about people... not at all.

They care about money, and power.
For themselves.... and let the peons make their own way.

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Re: Newman Lashes Out At The Union Bosses.
Reply #44 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:20am

Emma wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:45am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 8:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

Perhaps Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices if Labor had been far more competent in running the state. That is, after all, one of the reasons Bligh and her government was anhilated - the state is effectively broke.

Newman wouldn't have to make these tough choices

These are not tough decisions for a conservative - it is their SOP (standard operating procedure) it is just what they do.

If you think it's easy for anyone to make a decision that leaves men and women without a job, affecting their families as well, then you have no idea. I bet you've never even run your own business, so you probably haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

Showing how tough they are and belting the unions in the process - they all do it and enjoy themselves in the process.

When Newman's finished with Queensland no one there will have a job so it will be welcome to 1950's backwater Queensland courtesy of Campbell Newman.
Lets face it Newman panicked when he saw how massive the Queensland budget is, the huge and diverse income the state now achieves after two decades of massive growth and how large his responsibilities are.

... how enormous the amount of debt Bligh left behind is.

Phew got to the next page!! ARMPIT Again!! Roll Eyes

Good grief.!!

WHAT??? you mean according to Peter Costello and Campbell Newman.???
Right,, yeah sure ok .... Roll Eyes

They are real trust worthy aren't they? Eh? Eh?

I'll bet you there are thousands of hardworking QLD public servants, who voted for the mutt, foolishly, ...and are now facing the reality of their choice.!! No job.

What did they expect from an LNP govt.??
Clearly not what they GOT.

And many small but very helpful, small local grants to do with school children, for example, and their issues, have been cut. Really piss ant amounts ie less than 100K ...but priceless to the communities.

But THAT IS THE POINT.!!

The LNP don't really care about people... not at all.

They care about money, and power.
For themselves.... and let the peons make their own way.

You'd rather trust Bligh's people? Yeah, right! They aren't going to fudge the figures to make the debt seem lower during an election year, eh? Costello is widely respected on both sides of the political divide in Canberra and elsewhere. I think he can be relied upon to conduct an accurate and fair review of the state's finances. Do you know what the debt is at the moment?
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It's more than $60bn.

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