abu_rashid wrote on Aug 11
th, 2012 at 6:18am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 10
th, 2012 at 7:03am:
Abu,
Quote:I want a society based on the true word of God.
But the true word of God says you must kill apostates.
Your reply doesn't make sense.
No it doesn't.
Capital punishment is an affair of the state, not of any individual.Does the Australian legal system say you must kidnap thieves and tie them up in your basement?
Abu,
The statement you made on this issue, does not align with the command of Allah.
The Koran, gives advice on the punishment for apostates
who resist the spread of ISLAMIC authority;
Don't bring those persons before a court,
"seize them and slay them wherever ye find them....."
"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden).
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;- "
Koran 4.89
And so, those
infidels [i.e. apostates, and 'disbelievers'] who resist the authority of the REAL moslems, deserve no mercy, but should be "be seized and slain" [ <---- Allah commands this.
And Allah, is never wrong! ]....
"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....
whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."
Koran 33.60,61
Those "seize and slay" acts commanded by Allah, are 'lawful' to every moslem.
.....
because they ARE commanded by Allah himself.
And Allah reveals no 'qualification', Allah commands moslems to "seize and slay" those who resist, and oppose, the spread of his law.
And any person who reveals themselves to be an apostate,
".....his blood may legally be spilled."There are no IF'S, BUT'S or MAYBE'S.
FROM ISLAMIC LAW"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established.
Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110
n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."