Just to skip fast the first few pages of inevitable BS (see the previous thread), I am not asking whether Abu is on the verge of single handedly overthrowing the Australian government. The question is as simple as it seems - does Abu want Shariah law for Australia? The only reason I ask such a silly question is that both spot and Abu are reluctant to acknowledge it and did an interesting dance around the question last time.
This is the deflection we got last time spot asked the same question. Notice Abu even pretended I asked the question instead of spot to help justify his refusal to give a straight answer.
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 25
th, 2012 at 9:33pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 25
th, 2012 at 5:48am:
Do you want sharia law for yourself and your family or for everyone in australia
Islam is a state system, not an individual or family system, so freediver even asking if I plan to implement it on all Australians is just ludicrous. I have no power to implement any state system, and debating it is just a fruitless waste of time (just like all of fd's questions).
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 21
st, 2012 at 1:46pm:
Abu - freediver says you want to kill me and all other non-believers. He says you do not like "freedom and democracy" (although its debatable we have either in this country). Are these statements true? Do you want to change australian way of life to your way?
SOB
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22
nd, 2012 at 9:51am:
There ya go freeliar. Wher did he say he wanted to enforce islam?
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 22
nd, 2012 at 11:39am:
Okay abu under what circumstances would you feel obliged to kill me or other non-believers?
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 27
th, 2012 at 10:02am:
No I saw him say that but he also said he didnt care if australia has its democracy. He just wants muslim countries to be muslim. Fair enough i reckon for a religious person Do you ant to stop israel being jewish?
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 27
th, 2012 at 1:40pm:
Some muslims may want sharia law for themselves and their families and maybe even their country (that would be extreme though) but abu pretty much said to me that he isnt working towards this goal.
Spot, when you say he "pretty much said" it, are you conceding that he did not actually say it and that you are assuming?
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 3
rd, 2008 at 9:54pm:
One of my favourite ones is one that highlights the political nature of Islam.
It's regarding a pious man who lived in a city that was filled with impiety.
God almighty had ordained that the city was to be destroyed because it was so filled with evil and wickedness, and so he called upon his angels and commanded them to lay waste to the city. But they mentioned that there was a man who lived in that city who was one of the most pious and earnest worshippers on earth, and so their Lord commanded that they should continue the destrution and in fact begin with that man. He lived all his life amongst those people and did not try to fix the society in which he lived, believing himself to be pious and righteous because he carried out his own private rituals of worship.
So no matter how good you are as an individual, you must always work for the betterment of society, and must take an active role in the political life of the society, and that is in fact part of your worship, which would not be complete without this aspect.
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