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Reply #165 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:39am

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Then, they will slaughter their former infidel 'friends'.

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Syria, 2012.

Why would they? eg malaysia.

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All moslems who are residing in non-moslem host nations, have the nature [politically], of 'flags in the wind'.

And when the political 'wind' eventually changes direction, so will the 'allegiance' of those 'nice' moslems!

Then, they will slaughter their former infidel 'friends'

This is your paranoid opinion yadda but look @ countries like malaysia where they have a majority and they arent slaughtering ppl.

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But when it suits their purpose [i.e. when Allah provides the 'opportunity'], or when the political environment changes to favour the ISLAMISTS, those 'good' moslems residing in non-moslem host nations, will 'turn in the wind', and will always revert to being Jihadists/ISLAMISTS [i.e. really, good moslems].

Explain why - if this is true - it doesnt happen in malaysia where there is 60% muslim?

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The truth is, that all good moslems who live within non-moslem jurisdictions, are not being sincere, candid, honest, in representing ISLAM, to their non-moslem hosts.

You claim to know what ALL muslims are thinking yadda. How would you know this? Did the voices in your head tell you?

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The ISLAMIC 'ideals' which also include, a shared enmity [hatred!!], and disgust, for all non-moslems.

The xtian and jewish ideals are the same

I bet you have no atheist friends or friends of other religions yadda - maybe no friends @ all depending how bad your schizophrenia is.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #166 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:41am

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:09am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

I have even seen Abu try to claim Muslim ownership of Spain.

But how could we doubt their claim! Tongue

Moslems have legitimate grievances, against us all!
/sarc off

I didnt see the thing about spain but they do have legitimate grievances against he likes of you who claim to know what ALL muslims think.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #167 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:43am

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 5:17am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Who cares which is worse. We need to be wary of all organised religions and fascist tendencies. I know many Muslims and they are no more barbaric than most other AUstralians, which is not at all. I'd say many of them are quite happy to be living in a secular society.

Oh boy. you are gunna cop it now from freediver and yadda. They will take you out of context and lie about what you just said and tell you what you think.

Thing is imo it isnt even the religion causing the barbarity its just the environment and the religion is the excuse.

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SPOT,

Everywhere moslems go [into new lands], they bring their 'attitude' with them.

And eventually, their 'attitude' turns into 'hot' warfare, against those who [the moslems claim] are 'oppressing' them, because the natives/hosts won't meekly 'roll over', and be the slaves of the moslems.

But don't blame the moslems!!!!!

LOL

Sounds like xtians to me. Everytime they are anywhere near they start preaching hellfire. If you dont want to listen they claim they are martyrs and victims.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #168 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:45am

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 5:17am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Who cares which is worse. We need to be wary of all organised religions and fascist tendencies. I know many Muslims and they are no more barbaric than most other AUstralians, which is not at all. I'd say many of them are quite happy to be living in a secular society.

Oh boy. you are gunna cop it now from freediver and yadda. They will take you out of context and lie about what you just said and tell you what you think.

Thing is imo it isnt even the religion causing the barbarity its just the environment and the religion is the excuse.

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SPOT,

Everywhere moslems go [into new lands], they bring their 'attitude' with them.

And eventually, their 'attitude' turns into 'hot' warfare, against those who [the moslems claim] are 'oppressing' them, because the natives/hosts won't meekly 'roll over', and be the slaves of the moslems.

But don't blame the moslems!!!!!

LOL

Hey SPOT,

I forgot.

You don't.

Ever.

As if you have any idea. I dont blame the xtians either except when you blame all muslims i like to show up your hypocrisy.

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Reply #169 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:11am

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:09am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

I have even seen Abu try to claim Muslim ownership of Spain.

But how could we doubt their claim! Tongue

Moslems have legitimate grievances, against us all!
/sarc off

Given that Muslim rule of Spain lasted longer than Jewish rule of Palestine, and Muslim rule of Spain is only about 500 years out of doubt, compared to the 2000+ years of the Jews, then surely it makes more sense for Muslims to take Spain back.

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Reply #170 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:27am

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:09am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

I have even seen Abu try to claim Muslim ownership of Spain.

But how could we doubt their claim! Tongue

Moslems have legitimate grievances, against us all!
/sarc off

Given that Muslim rule of Spain lasted longer than Jewish rule of Palestine, and Muslim rule of Spain is only about 500 years out of doubt, compared to the 2000+ years of the Jews, then surely it makes more sense for Muslims to take Spain back.

Hahahaha oh yeah i get it. So they are pretending not to get what your hypothetical. If its okay for israel to want tot take back a country they say they had 2k years ago then your religion should be able to take back spain which they had 500 years ago? Hahahahahha thats a good example.

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Reply #171 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:07am

It's not just a hypothetical Spot. Abu thinks Islam will rule Australia one day too.

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The ancient Israelites conquered land by force, as did Muslims, that was long ago in an age when conquest was an every day part of survival.

So building an empire from Spain to India was an 'everyday part of survival'? Tell us Abu, did people adopt Islam that quickly, or was it imposed on them that quickly?

Abu who else here wants to turn that into a religion and start the process over again?

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Good one... Palestinians aren't concerned with having to live in refugee camps on the borders of their homeland, it's all about their supposed innate hatred for Jews. Get off the crack Soren.

What's your excuse Abu?

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Reply #172 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 12:38pm

So building an empire from Spain to India was an 'everyday part of survival'? Tell us Abu, did people adopt Islam that quickly, or was it imposed on them that quickly? By Freediver.

Islam always uses force. It has to because it's so backward and doesn't offer a people anything. One way for a country to go down the toilet is to become Islamic. It was probably one of the resons Spain got rid of Islam. Modern day Spain is a lovely place while the muslim countries to the south are toilets. I'd say they made the right choice.

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Reply #173 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:54pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 6:02am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

It is already happening with polygamy spot, i know a muslim couple the wife remarried recently yet her husband is already married and spends about half of the week with his other wife,dont worry cantrelink is supporting both families.

They get less from centrelink when recognised as two de-facto couples, than if they aren't recognised.

You're a tool.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

Do you like how they claim it protects the rights of women,Polygamy is illegal if they made it legal then it would protect the rights of the men who would otherwise be thrown in jail for breaking our laws.

Polygamy is not against Australian laws, remember this is the land of freedom and democracy, as long as you're not hurting anyone, then it's ok to do it. That's the Aussie mantra.

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I was only pointing out that centrelink are supporting these families.
Are you suggesting muslims could be rorting centrelink by not declaring their illegal second marriages?

Section 94 of the marriage act says it is five years in jail if you marry a second person.

How can you say polygamy is not against Australian laws are you ignorant about section 94 of the marriage act?

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Reply #175 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:25pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:27am:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:09am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

I have even seen Abu try to claim Muslim ownership of Spain.

But how could we doubt their claim! Tongue

Moslems have legitimate grievances, against us all!
/sarc off

Given that Muslim rule of Spain lasted longer than Jewish rule of Palestine, and Muslim rule of Spain is only about 500 years out of doubt, compared to the 2000+ years of the Jews, then surely it makes more sense for Muslims to take Spain back.

Hahahaha oh yeah i get it. So they are pretending not to get what your hypothetical. If its okay for israel to want tot take back a country they say they had 2k years ago then your religion should be able to take back spain which they had 500 years ago? Hahahahahha thats a good example.

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Spot, sadly these deadheads here don't seem to get it. I guess they can't be blamed, their kind of viewpoint does attract a certain kind of [non] intellect.

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Reply #176 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:29pm

Big Dave wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

So building an empire from Spain to India was an 'everyday part of survival'? Tell us Abu, did people adopt Islam that quickly, or was it imposed on them that quickly? By Freediver.

Islam always uses force. It has to because it's so backward and doesn't offer a people anything. One way for a country to go down the toilet is to become Islamic. It was probably one of the resons Spain got rid of Islam. Modern day Spain is a lovely place while the muslim countries to the south are toilets. I'd say they made the right choice.

Spain under Islam was a guiding light in Europe. The rest of Europe was a downtrodden back water, whilst Spain was a centre of civilisation. Even most Western historians are smart enough to work this one out.

There's plenty of documentaries detailing it, if you actually have the neurons needed to comprehend them.

No doubt you'll write them all off as being dhimmis or some nonsense, but don't say I didn't try to educate you.

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Reply #177 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:32pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Abu
I was only pointing out that centrelink are supporting these families.
Are you suggesting muslims could be rorting centrelink by not declaring their illegal second marriages?

If they claimed not to be de-facto, then centrelink would be paying them more. By declaring they are in a polygamous relationship, they are actually saving money for the government/people.

ie. your claims above are bollocks.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Section 94 of the marriage act says it is five years in jail if you marry a second person.

How can you say polygamy is not against Australian laws are you ignorant about section 94 of the marriage act?

Of course only one marriage is recognised by law, the rest are simply de-facto relationships.

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Reply #179 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:50pm

Polygamy is a stone aged practise?

Israel

Israel, in accordance with Western ethics, has made polygamy illegal.[70][71] Provisions were instituted to allow for existing polygamous families immigrating from countries where the practice was legal. Furthermore, former chief rabbi Ovadia Yosef[72] has come out in favor of legalizing polygamy and the practice of pilegesh (concubine) by the Israeli government.
Tzvi Zohar, a professor from the Bar-Ilan University, recently suggested that based on the opinions of leading halachic authorities, the concept of concubines may serve as a practical Halachic justification for premarital or non-marital cohabitation.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy#Israel)

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