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Reply #180 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 4:47am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:34pm:

Stone aged practices.

Mormons do it too. I dont really see a problem with it actually. Why cant ppl have more than 1 spouse? Why is there a law against it? A woman can have 2 husbands or a man could have 2 wives - if they all consent wheres the problem?

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Reply #182 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:23am

Big Dave wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Because it doesn't work spot. I causes multiple problems. It's no situation for a woman to be in either.

How do you know it doesn't work? I saw some thing on Tv the other night about ppl in australia doing it (non-muslims) and they seem to do fine although only 1 can actually be married.

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Reply #183 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:26am

Imagine being the 30th child in a mini cult like arangement and trying to get your dads attention. Immagine the infighting and family politics. Imagine how complicated custody and other family law matters would become in times of conflict. I can see it being a pain in the ass on many levels. Sure you'd find people who it works for, but you can find people who say eating pooh works for them too. Is it a good bet?- the government doesn't think so.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #184 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:41am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:09am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

I have even seen Abu try to claim Muslim ownership of Spain.

But how could we doubt their claim! Tongue

Moslems have legitimate grievances, against us all!
/sarc off

I didnt see the thing about spain but

they do have legitimate grievances against he likes of you who claim to know what ALL muslims think.

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SPOT,

So, .....you don't like what i am saying, about moslems ?

SPOT,

Why don't you take that up, WITH MOSLEMS, because 'what i know about moslems',
comes from moslems as my only source, that, and their religious texts.

So SPOT,

If you don't like what i am saying, does that mean that you despise moslems too ??? [.....because the only source of the information that i have, about what moslems 'think', is only moslems].

e.g.

A moslem, THINKING.......

Speaking in the UK, publicly, AND THEN PRIVATELY, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

AND;

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

Google;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;

we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

"A Study in Muslim Doctrine
...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia? Reply #185 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm Yadda - all muslims are not alike. They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful.. SOB
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Reply #186 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:18pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Yadda - all muslims are not alike.

They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful..

SOB

Hey SPOT,

Which moslems are you taking about ?

Which moslems are you referring to ?

Is it the moslems,
who DO NOT revere and read the Koran,
is it the moslems who DO NOT worship and obey their god, Alllah ???

Ignorance, boundless.

WAKE UP TO YOURSELF SPOT!!!

i
SPOT,

Err, all moslems are, .....err, moslems.

The OBLIGATION of every moslem to OBEY Allah.....

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends.....offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

Koran 5.51

IMAGE...

London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

Google;
Shahada, confession of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

AGAIN,,,,,,,AGAIN,,,,,,,AGAIN,,,,,,,AGAIN,,,,,,,

>> Being << a moslem involves much more than simply declaring the Shahada.

It also involves, the obligation, that the moslem will submit himself to the tenets, the laws, and the 'ideals', which ISLAM promotes.

The ISLAMIC 'ideals' which also include, a shared enmity [hatred!!], and disgust, for all non-moslems.

And again.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344204563/254#254

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #187 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 3:45pm

freediver wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 6:41am:

You make the claims you back them up. You could do a longy and quote me in context thereby proving you are lying.

SOB

It is your quote Spot. You said it. There is even a link to where you said it in case you are still confused about what you said. Surely that is not too complicated for you?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 6:36am:

He said he didnt want sharia law in australia.

Do you have anything other than wishfull thinking to justify this claim that Abu does not follow the Koran? Can you link to where I was quoting his book? Or were you just making it up as you go along?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

You are quoting his book. I quote your book. He doesnt follow his and you dont follow yours. They both say ppl should be killed for apostasy.

Hey spot, now that you know how to follow the links, does that mean you will stop deflecting and back up your own claims? Abu is obviously in no hurry to correct your delusions. Perhaps he considers them useful. So how about you point out to us where Abu said the things you attribute to him? While you are at it, please point out where you think I was quoting the Koran at him, and what he posted that lead you to believe he does not follow it. You could even show off what a quick learner you are by using the embedded links yourself.

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Reply #188 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:30pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Yadda - all muslims are not alike. They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful..

SOB

But they are all Muslims. That's the catch.

Are you a Muslim? Why not? If it makes no difference, why not become a Muslim? God knows, you have the mind just right for it. Go ahead, make the leap. You keep parroting that it makes no difference that they are Muslims. Be one, then. They are always looking for disaffected, lost Westerners. You'd be finally going home.

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Reply #189 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:23am:

Big Dave wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Because it doesn't work spot. I causes multiple problems. It's no situation for a woman to be in either.

How do you know it doesn't work? I saw some thing on Tv the other night about ppl in australia doing it (non-muslims) and they seem to do fine although only 1 can actually be married.

Spot

It's called jealousy spot,it's called "tried and tested" by history spot...just believe what your elders tell you and stop watching too much tv spot

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Reply #190 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:05am

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Hey SPOT,

Which moslems are you taking about ?

Which moslems are you referring to ?

uhhh most of them? Can you read?

Quote:

Is it the moslems,
who DO NOT revere and read the Koran,
is it the moslems who DO NOT worship and obey their god, Alllah ???

No its the decent ones that interpret their book the good way. You know like some xtians (obviously not you) do with the bible. Both books are full of contradictions. The koran has passages saying to leave unbelievers alone and passages saying not to. Contradictions. Just like your book. It all depends on how the individuals decide to preterite this stuff.

For example how do you interpret "love thy neighbour"? For you this means unless they are "moslem" right?

koran:

Live peacefully with disbelievers

. Saq Surah 43:88-89

Ignorance, boundless.

WAKE UP TO YOURSELF YADDA!!!

Quote:

SPOT,
Err, all moslems are, .....err, moslems.

Well yeah duh and all xtians are . . . err xtians

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Reply #191 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:07am

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Hey spot, now that you know how to follow the links, does that mean you will stop deflecting and back up your own claims? Abu is obviously in no hurry to correct your delusions. Perhaps he considers them useful. So how about you point out to us where Abu said the things you attribute to him? While you are at it, please point out where you think I was quoting the Koran at him, and what he posted that lead you to believe he does not follow it. You could even show off what a quick learner you are by using the embedded links yourself.

Blah blah blah blah

Wheres the link to where i claimed you are lying because i didnt know how to follow links? Comon show me the quote freeliar.

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Reply #192 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:09am

Soren wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Yadda - all muslims are not alike. They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful..

SOB

But they are all Muslims. That's the catch.

Are you a Muslim? Why not? If it makes no difference, why not become a Muslim? God knows, you have the mind just right for it. Go ahead, make the leap. You keep parroting that it makes no difference that they are Muslims. Be one, then. They are always looking for disaffected, lost Westerners. You'd be finally going home.

Mainstream muslims are not quite as silly as mainstream xtians. @ least they dont hate anyone of another religion like you lot do. I see you are one of those women who think belief is a choice. Choose to believe this or that. Go on choose to believe in pink unicorns. There - do you believe? Belief is a choice hahahahaha.

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Reply #193 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 11:35am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:09am:

Soren wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Yadda - all muslims are not alike. They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful..

SOB

But they are all Muslims. That's the catch.

Are you a Muslim? Why not? If it makes no difference, why not become a Muslim? God knows, you have the mind just right for it. Go ahead, make the leap. You keep parroting that it makes no difference that they are Muslims. Be one, then. They are always looking for disaffected, lost Westerners. You'd be finally going home.

Mainstream muslims are not quite as silly as mainstream xtians. @ least they dont hate anyone of another religion like you lot do. I see you are one of those women who think belief is a choice. Choose to believe this or that. Go on choose to believe in pink unicorns. There - do you believe? Belief is a choice hahahahaha.

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Reply #194 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:14pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

Every single Muslim country in North Africa and the Middle East, all the way to Pakistan, is Muslim due to conquest by Muslim armies.

The ancient Israelites conquered land by force, as did Muslims, that was long ago in an age when conquest was an every day part of survival.

Conquest is good, you say. Cool.

The Jews re-conquered the place, in an age when conquering a country was an every day part of survival for them, more than ever before.

They acted Islamically. You must be able to see that.

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