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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49371 At my desk.	Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia? Reply #195 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:37pm Quote: Mainstream muslims are not quite as silly as mainstream xtians. Careful Spot, you are straying from the 'all religions are equal' message.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia? Reply #196 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:41pm freediver wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:37pm: Quote: Mainstream muslims are not quite as silly as mainstream xtians. Careful Spot, you are straying from the 'all religions are equal' message. I havent ever actually said that either freediver. You can only quotemine that one. Equally absurd. SOB
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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #197 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:51pm

You did say these things Spot. When are you going to back them up? I have only asked you about 100 times.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 6:36am:

He said he didnt want sharia law in australia.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

You are quoting his book. I quote your book. He doesnt follow his and you dont follow yours. They both say ppl should be killed for apostasy.

Now that you have discovered the magic of links on the internet, you have no more excuses for pleading stupidity.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #198 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:05am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Yadda - all muslims are not alike.

They are not all terrorists. The mainstream is peaceful..

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Yes they are SPOT.

Every single moslem has chosen to embrace ISLAM, and the evil which ISLAM promotes.

Every 'good' moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

That statement may be uncomfortable to some, but it is TRUTH, factual.i

This is SPOT's 'proof' that there is some shred of goodness in ISLAM, in particular, within the Koran.....

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:05am:

koran:

Live peacefully with disbelievers

. Saq Surah 43:88-89

SPOT,

If everything that you [purported to] know about authentic ISLAM was dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your brains out.

SPOT,

Koran 43:88-89 does NOT tell moslems;

"Live peacefully with disbelievers."

N.B. what Koran 43:89 is actually saying is....

".....say "Peace!" But soon shall they know!"
Koran 43:89

NOW, read this next news item, bearing in mind the Koran 43:89 text i quoted above....

Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

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SPOT,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

Your 'critical thinking' facilities are non-existent.

Does mummy still spoon feed you ?

SPOT,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

I don't believe that you are a dupe.

I'm going for #2.

"Quack, quack!"

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #199 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 4:56am

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Yes they are SPOT.

Every single moslem has chosen to embrace ISLAM, and the evil which ISLAM promotes.

Every 'good' moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

That statement may be uncomfortable to some, but it is TRUTH, factual.

And you cant see that your religion is the same with the same crap in the book that is unlawful. They dont follow the stuff literally same as you dont follow yours literally. Or do you?

How about love thy neighbour? Any of that going on?

Quote:

If everything that you [purported to] know about authentic ISLAM was dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your brains out.

That is not an argument. It is just a stupid throw-off attempt @ insulting me instead of addressing the issue.

Quote:

SPOT,

Koran 43:88-89 does NOT tell moslems;

"Live peacefully with disbelievers."

N.B. what Koran 43:89 is actually saying is....

".....say "Peace!" But soon shall they know!"
Koran 43:89

That is your interpretation. How many interpretations are there? Like xtianity there are all different sects and interpretations.

YADDA,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

Your 'critical thinking' facilities are non-existent.

Does mummy still spoon feed you ?

YADDA,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

I don't believe that you are a dupe.

I'm going for #2.

"Quack, quack!"

BTW is this abuse called for? seriously . . . . .

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Reply #200 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Hey folks,

I castigate SPOT.....

Yadda wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

Ignorance, boundless.

WAKE UP TO YOURSELF SPOT!!!

And guess how SPOT responds.....
it is here...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344119653/190#190

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I criticise SPOT.....

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:05am:

SPOT,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

And how does SPOT retort ???

Guess!

You were correct! LOL

Quote:

YADDA,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

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And then.....

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:05am:

SPOT,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

And how does SPOT retort ???.....

Quote:

YADDA,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

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Be careful folks when you are debating with SPOT.
Coz, we are dealing with a deep intellect here!
/sarc off

Grin

Yadda, @ SPOT, in a previous post.....

Quote:

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

Was it an inaccurate criticism ??? Wink

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Reply #201 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:11pm

In my experience this is what conversations with spot look like:

1) Spot says something really stupid.
2) Spot repeats himself, seemingly oblivious to what other people say.
3) Spot changes the topic.
4) Spot denies saying stupid thing.
5) Spot demands people prove that he said it.
6) Spot accuses them of lying, misrepresenting him, editing quotes, quoting him out of context etc.
7) Spot denies that he denied saying stupid thing.
8) Spot pretends to be too silly to follow links.
9) Spot says he isn't interested in links anyway.
10) Spot demands the same links again.
11) Spot complains about links and accuses people of 'quote mining'.
12) Spot gets all confused about what the topic is and tries to change it again.
13) Spot demands people prove something else before he will address stupid thing he said.
14) Spot retreats to the safety of vague generalisations and meaningless accusations.
15) Spot complains that he said it too long ago and he now expects other people to prove something did not happen, rather than him showing where it did happen as he claimed.
16) Spot parrots accusations back at the accuser.
17) Spot ignores topic for a while.
18) Spot says same stupid thing and restarts the process.

I have seen him parrot this list back at me.

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Reply #202 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

FD,

Many of those 'qualities' [i.e. tactics used in debate, with those who criticise ISLAM] are also found in EVERY moslem that you will EVER debate with.

How can people doubt it, when i say that SPOT is a 'duck' [who is hiding behind a veil of anonymity] ? Wink

SPOT = = deceive, inveigle, obfuscate

If SPOT is not a moslem [i very much doubt it], he/she, should convert.

They have the exact same heart, imo.

And, they could then, all revel together, in their own self-deception. Tongue

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Reply #203 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:27pm

Hey folks,

I castigate YADDA....

Yadda wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

Ignorance, boundless.

WAKE UP TO YOURSELF YADDA!!!

And guess how YADDA responds.....
it is here...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344119653/190#190

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I criticise YADDA.....

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:05am:

YADDA,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

And how does YADDA retort ???

Guess!

You were correct! LOL

Quote:

YADDA,

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

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And then.....

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:05am:

YADDA,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

And how does YADDA retort ???.....

Quote:

YADDA,

My opinion of you ?

You are either;

1/ A dupe.

OR,

2/ A very evil, deceptive person.

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Be careful folks when you are debating with YADDA.
Coz, we are dealing with a deep intellect here!
/sarc off

Grin

Yadda, @ SPOT, in a previous post.....

Quote:

There is not an original thought in your brain, is there ?

Was it an inaccurate criticism ??? Wink

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Well you dont like getting back what you throw @ me do you.

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Reply #204 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:32pm

Many of those 'qualities' [i.e. tactics used in debate, with those who criticise ISLAM] are also found in EVERY moslem that you will EVER debate with.

How can people doubt it, when i say that YADDA is a 'duck' [who is hiding behind a veil of anonymity] ? Wink

YADDA = = deceive, inveigle, obfuscate

If YADDA is not a moslem [i very much doubt it], he/she, should convert.

They have the exact same heart, imo.

And, they could then, all revel together, in their own self-deception. Tongue

BTW is YADDA your real name then? Or are you using an ALIAS on the INTERNET?

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #205 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:34pm

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

In my experience this is what conversations with Freediver look like:

1) Freediver says something really stupid.
2) Freediver repeats himself, seemingly oblivious to what other people say.
3) Freediver changes the topic.
4) Freediver denies saying stupid thing.
5) Freediver demands people prove that he said it.
6) Freediver accuses them of lying, misrepresenting him, editing quotes, quoting him out of context etc.
7) Freediver denies that he denied saying stupid thing.
8) Freediver pretends to be too silly to follow links.
9) Freediver says he isn't interested in links anyway.
10) Freediver demands the same links again.
11) Freediver complains about links and accuses people of 'quote mining'.
12) Freediver gets all confused about what the topic is and tries to change it again.
13) Freediver demands people prove something else before he will address stupid thing he said.
14) Freediver retreats to the safety of vague generalisations and meaningless accusations.
15) Freediver complains that he said it too long ago and he now expects other people to prove something did not happen, rather than him showing where it did happen as he claimed.
16) Freediver parrots accusations back at the accuser.
17) Freediver ignores topic for a while.
18) Freediver says same stupid thing and restarts the process.

I have seen him parrot this list back at me.

No - you hadnt. You obviously didnt read it. However NOW its parroted.

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Reply #207 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:45pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

In my experience this is what conversations with Freediver look like:

1) Freediver says something really stupid.
2) Freediver repeats himself, seemingly oblivious to what other people say.
3) Freediver changes the topic.
4) Freediver denies saying stupid thing.
5) Freediver demands people prove that he said it.
6) Freediver accuses them of lying, misrepresenting him, editing quotes, quoting him out of context etc.
7) Freediver denies that he denied saying stupid thing.
8) Freediver pretends to be too silly to follow links.
9) Freediver says he isn't interested in links anyway.
10) Freediver demands the same links again.
11) Freediver complains about links and accuses people of 'quote mining'.
12) Freediver gets all confused about what the topic is and tries to change it again.
13) Freediver demands people prove something else before he will address stupid thing he said.
14) Freediver retreats to the safety of vague generalisations and meaningless accusations.
15) Freediver complains that he said it too long ago and he now expects other people to prove something did not happen, rather than him showing where it did happen as he claimed.
16) Freediver parrots accusations back at the accuser.
17) Freediver ignores topic for a while.
18) Freediver says same stupid thing and restarts the process.

I have seen him parrot this list back at me.

No - you hadnt. You obviously didnt read it. However NOW its parroted.

SOB

COMMENT;

True to SPOT's form. Cheesy

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Reply #208 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:26pm

There you go. I have only asked him 1 quesiton and he answered it and he said he didnt want sharia law for australia.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 9:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 5:48am:

Mate ill give him another one for free and ask you this:

Do you want sharia law for yourself and your family or for everyone in australia

Islam is a state system, not an individual or family system, so freediver even asking if I plan to implement it on all Australians is just ludicrous. I have no power to implement any state system, and debating it is just a fruitless waste of time (just like all of fd's questions). Muslims have not even managed to implement Shari'ah in the Muslim-majority world for over 90 years now, therefore, even floating the question of implementing it in Australia simply makes no sense.

The question is framed as if I am somehow on the very edge of taking control of the country, it's just nonsensical.

It is fd's usual strategy of asking completely irrational irrelevant questions, which have no logical answer, as they don't even make sense to people grounded in the real world.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 5:48am:

or are you not a sharia law person?

As a Muslim of course I believe in Shari'ah law, but it's something for the Muslim world to implement, nothing to do with Australia at all.

There.

Of course you have seen this before and have been going on about it ever since.

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