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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #210 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Spot he is not saying he does not want Shariah law for Australia. He is merely saying it is unlikely.

Please think before responding Spot. There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

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As a Muslim of course I believe in Shari'ah law, but it's something for the Muslim world to implement, nothing to do with Australia at all.

The muslim world - not australia.

You dont need to reinterpret everything ppl say to mean what you want them so say you know.

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Reply #211 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 6:37pm

You are so gullible Spot. There were pages of discussion with him about whether he wants Shariah law for Australia and the difference between that and what he is able to achieve. He never said he does not want Shariah law for Australia. The closest thing you can find is a vague comment that appears to imply that, but only if you ignore the context of Abu explaining that the only issue worth discussing is whether it is achievable. It is you who is interpretting what he said and you are a fool for thinking you know what he wants without a straight answer from him. You are a fool for not even recognising the lengths he went to to avoid giving a straight answer.

Abu is a Koran following Muslim who wants Shariah law for the entire world, who thinks it is inevitable for the entire world, and who would be happy to have it imposed on non-Muslims. He is also clever enough to realise that it is not going to happen in a hurry, that talking about it openly won't make it happen any faster, and that it helps his cause if fools insist it is not what he wants.

If you don't believe me, ask him and watch him squirm, and then face up to the reality of what is in front of you.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #212 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 5:04am

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

You are so gullible Spot. There were pages of discussion with him about whether he wants Shariah law for Australia and the difference between that and what he is able to achieve. He never said he does not want Shariah law for Australia. The closest thing you can find is a vague comment that appears to imply that, but only if you ignore the context of Abu explaining that the only issue worth discussing is whether it is achievable. It is you who is interpretting what he said and you are a fool for thinking you know what he wants without a straight answer from him. You are a fool for not even recognising the lengths he went to to avoid giving a straight answer.

Abu is a Koran following Muslim who wants Shariah law for the entire world, who thinks it is inevitable for the entire world, and who would be happy to have it imposed on non-Muslims. He is also clever enough to realise that it is not going to happen in a hurry, that talking about it openly won't make it happen any faster, and that it helps his cause if fools insist it is not what he wants.

If you don't believe me, ask him and watch him squirm, and then face up to the reality of what is in front of you.

When are you and your islamophobic self going to realise that it doesnt matter? I already linked you to where he said he didnt want it in australia. You will never see it though because you dont want to. Xtians are more of a threat. Abbott in parliament telling ppl to pray and gillard the so-called atheist crossing the floor on a religious issue. Its crap.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #213 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 8:41am

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Spot he is not saying he does not want Shariah law for Australia. He is merely saying it is unlikely.

Please think before responding Spot.

FD,

That is silly.

You know very well by now, that your request is an exercise in futility.

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There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

Oh, only Abu, is it ? Tongue

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #214 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:12pm

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

The only fool here is you fd. I've answered Spot quite clearly on this issue, I have no intention of trying to force Shari'ah law onto Australia. You simply can't accept what is spoken to you, you always need to re-interpret it and convince yourself there's some hidden meaning not being admitted.

You're a tool, seriously.

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Reply #215 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:17pm

I think what Abu means is that he would support Sharia law for Australia if we had a referendum
but he would not actually participate in thowing stones at women
who were sentenced to death by stoning.
( for apostasy or adultery etc )

Instead he would just nod his head & say - this is Allah's justice.
Allah Akbar.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #216 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:25pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

The only fool here is you fd. I've answered Spot quite clearly on this issue, I have no intention of trying to force Shari'ah law onto Australia. You simply can't accept what is spoken to you, you always need to re-interpret it and convince yourself there's some hidden meaning not being admitted.

You're a tool, seriously.

Abu-
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We do need to promote and make propaganda for sharia

You said it here-
http://www.aussiemuslims.com/forums/showpost.php?p=484299&postcount=33
Was that topic about muslims calling for sharia law Abu?

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #217 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:36pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

The only fool here is you fd. I've answered Spot quite clearly on this issue, I have no intention of trying to force Shari'ah law onto Australia. You simply can't accept what is spoken to you, you always need to re-interpret it and convince yourself there's some hidden meaning not being admitted.

You're a tool, seriously.

Abu-
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We do need to promote and make propaganda for sharia

You said it here-
http://www.aussiemuslims.com/forums/showpost.php?p=484299&postcount=33
Was that topic about muslims calling for sharia law Abu?

Why do you promote and make propaganda for your causes?

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #218 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:37pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Spot he is not saying he does not want Shariah law for Australia. He is merely saying it is unlikely.

Please think before responding Spot.

FD,

That is silly.

You know very well by now, that your request is an exercise in futility.

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There is a reason Abu has not spoken up to confirm your interpretation of what he said - it is because he thinks you are a fool.

Oh, only Abu, is it ? Tongue

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #219 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 6:59pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Abu-
Why did you say -
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We do need to promote and make propaganda for sharia

You said it here-
http://www.aussiemuslims.com/forums/showpost.php?p=484299&postcount=33
Was that topic about muslims calling for sharia law Abu?

Because I believe in it, and I believe in promoting it.

That does not contradict my statement that I am not intending to force it onto Australians.

Baron, it's a clear fact that even if 100% of the population of a country are Muslims, doesn't mean shari'ah law is going to be possible to enact. In a country where about 2% are, it's absolute moot even discussing the idea. Honestly are you people even on the same planet here?

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #221 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 8:02pm

Big Dave wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

You are definately on another planet if you want sharia. Probably up uranus. Human rights (especially for females) aren't one of it's stronger points.

Big Dave, so why are so many females amongst those who believe in and promote it?

I think you're just misinformed about what shari'ah is. Yes it has strict punishments, but such punishments are required for a society to function in a just and moral way. Our societies can't keep going the way they are, letting criminals off left right and centre, almost begging them to re-offend.

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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #222 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 12:35am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

I think what Abu means is that he would support Sharia law for Australia if we had a referendum
but he would not actually participate in thowing stones at women
who were sentenced to death by stoning.
( for apostasy or adultery etc )

Instead he would just nod his head & say - this is Allah's justice.
Allah Akbar.

Bump to Abu.

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia? Reply #223 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:26am If sharia is so good then why is most of the muslim world a basket case abu? There's as much if not more killing and crime in the muslim world as in any other place. The punishment part isn't cutting it.
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Re: does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?
Reply #224 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 6:12am

Big Dave wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:26am:

If sharia is so good then why is most of the muslim world a basket case abu? There's as much if not more killing and crime in the muslim world as in any other place. The punishment part isn't cutting it.

the "muslim world" is not as advanced. They havent got the police forces we do etc. Not really a religious thing but a civilisation thing.

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