Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 20
th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
Your comment on promoting and making propaganda for sharia implies to me that you will sneak it in any way you can so that comment indicates to me you will use deception rather than force.
Whilst the term propaganda has been often associated with deceitful information campaigns, that is not the actual meaning of the word. It really just means to propagate information (and this is what the word is derived from), and was originally used purely for religious propagation.
This is the meaning I intend when using it:
Quote:Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.
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Etymology
The term started to gain currency in 1622, when a new branch of the Catholic Church was created, called the Congregatio de Propaganda Fide (Congregation for Propagating the Faith), or informally simply Propaganda.[1][2] Its activity consisted in a group of cardinals pitching Catholicism in non Catholic countries.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 20
th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
Yes 2% of out population are muslims and many are already asking for sharia law even Ikebal Patel from the Australian federation of Islamic councils has asked for sharia law to be considered.
You're talking about 2 completely separate issues here.
1) Shari'ah law, a state system of governance, that covers all spheres of societal life. Implemented by a sovereign government.
2) Dispute resolution, burials, marriages etc. and mutual contracts drawn up according to some select principles of the above.
They are not even remotely alike, and suggesting it's the same thing is just plain stupid.
In the Islamic Caliphate, for over 1200 years, Christians and Jews lived according to Jewish and Christian "law" respectively. Yet at no time did the Caliphate implement either of those systems. It merely allowed them to resolve their disputes according to their principles. Likewise Britain has allowed Jews to do the same, having "Halakhic law" contracts amongst themselves. Yet at no time has the UK government ever implemented the ordinances of Halakhic law. Likewise Australian law allows Aboriginals to resolve some disputes according to their tradition laws. These councils and institutions are not an implementation of those laws though, and honestly, anyone who seriously believes they are is severely deluded and living in fantasy land.
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 20
th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
Did the hindu ever ask us to change any of our laws Abu?
Yes some Hindus have been asking to be able to change some laws in Western countries to accommadate their beliefs:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/594440-hindu-condemns-uk-law-over-funeralsBut if you just used your mind to actually reflect on what this all means, you'd know it does not mean implementing an alternate law system.
If you happened to live in India, and they forbade burials and only permitted open air cremations, which you or someone else might not agree with or want done with your own remains, then wouldn't you seek to assert your rights to have your remains disposed of the way you like?
These are the only kinds of issues any religious group is campaigning for in Western countries. The idea they're campaigning for the implementing of an alternate political system is just nonsense.
Apart from the odd fringe lunatic who Today tonight digs up out of the woodwork that is.
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