Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:


Spot, we know very well who's causing them, it's the Ba'athist/Secularist/Alawite regime that was foisted upon the Muslims of Syria 50 odd years ago, and who have been oppressing, torturing, murdering them ever since. Finally the people have taken the example of Libya, Tunisia, Egypt and said is enough is enough and are going to sacrifice their current generation to remove these monsters from power.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:


The Alawite Ba'athists are not "ourselves" they are as foreign a body to us as you are. They worship Bashar, not God.

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Actually Abu, I am interested in why you refuse to admit something so obvious to Spot and why you went to such lengths in the other thread to reinforce spot's misconceptions.

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You spent a few pages in the other thread reinforcing his view that you do not want Shariah law for Australia. Are you now claiming to be unaware that spot thinks you don't want Shariah law?

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This has nothing to do with today tonight. The only reason there is any discussion at all is because of your silly dancing around the issue, because you didn't want to correct any misconception of Islam that might work in your favour.

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I do not want you to defend him. I am just trying to get you to acknowledge the reality - that Abu wants Shariah law for Australia and that Islam differs fundamentally from other religions in the extent of the legal imposition and that the legal imposition tends to come first.

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So why are you so keen to deny that Abu wants Shariah law for Australia? Do you think pretending Muslims don't want this is an effective way to counter the movement?

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So tell us Abu, what is the appropriate punishment under Sunni Islam for being a Shite?

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They just happen to be two different types of Muslims who think that the death penalty should apply to the other. Ask Abu about it. This is why he is so reluctant to give a straight answer about what he wants - because it sheds so much light on why Shites and Sunnis are killing each other. Like Abu, they want to impose Shariah law. They even agree with Abu that the death penalty should apply for anyone promoting the wrong version. The only problem is, the Shites and Sunnis have different versions. The broader political issues are actually not that relevant. As soon as there is any kind of power vacuum in Muslim dominated countries across the middle east and north Africa, Shites and Sunnis start killing each other.

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A long time ago it was like this all over Europe. We call it the dark ages. Abu calls it enlightenment, but only when Sunni Muslims do it.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:


Not sure what that means So it is about religion? How is it about religion? Seems civil warrish to me. Or provoked.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:10am:


It is not about religion, it is about secularists wanting to eradicate Muslims.

Syria is a largely [Orthodox] Muslim country, but the French left a family from a tiny minority group called the Alawites in power. In reality though they are members of the Arabic equivalent of Nazism (Ba'athism), and are staunchly secular. In the video above, you can see they mock religion by prostrating to Bashar al-Assad. They have no connection to religion at all. You can even see in some videos them forcing Muslims to denounce Islam, and to testify there is no deity except Bashar.

Also there are Alawites fighting on the side of the rebels and there are also Muslims (albeit severely deluded ones) fighting on the side of the Ba'athists. It is nothing to do with religious division, other than the family of Assad happens to be from the Alawite minority.

Abu,
as a moderator - set a good example & answer all the questions.

Big Dave wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:37am:


Didnt he just explain that it wasnt muslims killing each other? Are you getting "middle eastern" mixed up with "muslim"?

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