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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 2:24pm
 
Quantum wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 9:10am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:56am:
Quantum wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:35am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 5:56am:
Well. They dont want my money. Not online anyway. I made an order worth about 1700 and all went fine - no error messages or anything then next morning there was an email saying my order was rejected unless i provide them with 2 types of ID proving I live where I say i live. They wanted a drivers license (I dont have one) and/or an electricity bill (its not on my name). In fact theres only 1 thing in my name here and for that i dont get paper bills. Thing is i dont have a scanner either. WTF?

Why should i have to go through that? Why scan documents and send them to JB hifi? Ebay lets me keep 5 addresses and i pick which one i want stuff delivered to this time (so i can xmas shop from there). No wonder aussie businesses are having problems if they are doing this. I havent tried to buy anything else from anywhere else australian except techbuy. Ebay it is. Or the UK - I have good luck with them. They are pleasant and if theres a problem they resolve it.

Yeah. To add insult to injury when i cancelled the order (like i had a choice) they sent me another email blaming it all on me and saying i agreed to this crap in the terms of service. I tell you what they need to fix up their act or they arent going to have any customers @ all. Who wants to go through all that crap? If you go in a shop you dont have to show id to buy a bluray player why should you have to show it online? My credit card or paypal account should be enough - i had to go through all kinds of poo to get those.

Just for some perspective - i shop @ another aussie business that is online and have been with them for over 10 years. They have never put me through this crap and dont care what address I get stuff delivered to. I would have bought it from them if they had had the model i wanted.

Seriously the worst thing they did after all the crap is to write to me after its all over telling me its my fault and driving me (as a customer) away from their business forever. Might even sell my shares.

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If you spend even less than $1700 in most shops they will ask for ID.

Credit card fraud is a massive issue, esspically on line. If business don't check these things and people get their cards cleaned out they would be the first to complain that the company didn't take enough precautions.


Bullshit. I have spent way more than that plenty of times in shops and never been asked for ID.

Besides they werent asking me to verify the friggin credit card they were hassling me about my address!

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Based on the things you say on this forum it would be an obvious conclusion that your unemployed. So where is all this money coming form to have spent more than $1700 plenty of times?

JB usually ask for Id on large amounts in shop. Most shops will ask for proof when spending a large sum. Checking that the address matches the credit car is part of checking that everything in fine. When ordering on line JB will normally ask for ID at time of delivery.

Either you;
*Have a bad credit history.
*Have a record of claiming non delivery, hence why the shop is going to extra measures.
*This is a "I had this experience" story, which is code for "I am making crap up because it gives me something to whine about".


The last option is highly likely. However, checking address and verifying it is actually part of the VISA approved security measures for avoiding credit card fraud. And the reason? If it is a stolen credit card and they dont show due diligence JB Hifi ends up footing the bill. Having no identifidable proof of address does sound pretty dodgy. no licence and no bills in your name? no scanner and no ability to print off electronic bills? How do you expect to get an internet service or mobile phone?

and who doesnt have a drivers licence or pension card or so on?

You have to admit that from JB Hifis perspective it does sound iffy that you cant verify your address.
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Reply #16 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
Having no driver's licence isn't that uncommon.  Two of my sisters-in-law don't have driver's licences.  I can't really understand it myself - it seems that they're quite happy to be driven around by their husbands or just by using public transport - but they both have some other form of photo ID (both have current passports and one also has an RTA card).  A woman I work with doesn't have a licence because of poor eyesight - I don't know what other sort of ID she might have though.
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Reply #17 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:35pm
 
Frances wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
Having no driver's licence isn't that uncommon.  Two of my sisters-in-law don't have driver's licences.  I can't really understand it myself - it seems that they're quite happy to be driven around by their husbands or just by using public transport - but they both have some other form of photo ID (both have current passports and one also has an RTA card).  A woman I work with doesn't have a licence because of poor eyesight - I don't know what other sort of ID she might have though.


Who has a scanner? I just moved here geez. I have an over 18 card but it still has my previous address on it. Like i said their focus was on my address. They say an over 18 card is just as good as a license but it is not because you cant just give them the number and they look it up. They wont do it - even though it is issued by the registry.

Anyway nowhere else online or offline has ever asked me to prove my address before just to buy something. They can do a credit card check easy with the bank no need to make me find a scanner.

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Reply #18 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 4:02pm
 
Quantum wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:35am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 5:56am:
Well. They dont want my money. Not online anyway. I made an order worth about 1700 and all went fine - no error messages or anything then next morning there was an email saying my order was rejected unless i provide them with 2 types of ID proving I live where I say i live. They wanted a drivers license (I dont have one) and/or an electricity bill (its not on my name). In fact theres only 1 thing in my name here and for that i dont get paper bills. Thing is i dont have a scanner either. WTF?

Why should i have to go through that? Why scan documents and send them to JB hifi? Ebay lets me keep 5 addresses and i pick which one i want stuff delivered to this time (so i can xmas shop from there). No wonder aussie businesses are having problems if they are doing this. I havent tried to buy anything else from anywhere else australian except techbuy. Ebay it is. Or the UK - I have good luck with them. They are pleasant and if theres a problem they resolve it.

Yeah. To add insult to injury when i cancelled the order (like i had a choice) they sent me another email blaming it all on me and saying i agreed to this crap in the terms of service. I tell you what they need to fix up their act or they arent going to have any customers @ all. Who wants to go through all that crap? If you go in a shop you dont have to show id to buy a bluray player why should you have to show it online? My credit card or paypal account should be enough - i had to go through all kinds of poo to get those.

Just for some perspective - i shop @ another aussie business that is online and have been with them for over 10 years. They have never put me through this crap and dont care what address I get stuff delivered to. I would have bought it from them if they had had the model i wanted.

Seriously the worst thing they did after all the crap is to write to me after its all over telling me its my fault and driving me (as a customer) away from their business forever. Might even sell my shares.

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If you spend even less than $1700 in most shops they will ask for ID.

Credit card fraud is a massive issue, esspically on line. If business don't check these things and people get their cards cleaned out they would be the first to complain that the company didn't take enough precautions.


JB Hifi works on such tight profit margins they don't  want to pay for security checks on each credit card transaction. Bad luck because they miss out on the sale Sad
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Reply #19 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 12:01pm
 
i had no problem at all with a online purchase , it was paid via pay pal transaction to debit bank account, In fact the all in one computer turned up before the money was actually debited from my bank account.
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Reply #20 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 12:03pm
 
an over 18 card is just as good a a licence, get department of transport to change the address on it
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Reply #21 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 1:11pm
 
set up a pay pal accont linked to your banking account and or credit accounts
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Reply #22 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 1:22pm
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 12:03pm:
an over 18 card is just as good a a licence, get department of transport to change the address on it


Yeah its supposed to be but its not because you can give them your license number over the phone and they can check it but they wont take your over 18 card number.

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Reply #23 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 8:45pm
 
Few Christmasses ago I went to one of the larger electrical retailers in Sydney to buy two laptops as gifts.  As payment, I tendered ---- wait for it

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cash


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Yes, I had the effrontery, apparently, to attempt to pay in cash.  Total was around $2600

You would have thought I were a suspected terrorist.  The place went into panic.  Check out dill regarded me with utmost suspicion and called for a supervisor.  Don't know what sort of alert she sent out, but within a few minutes there were various supervisors surrounding me and another family member (we're white, from generations of white people and we were wearing white-peoples' attire, our faces fully exposed and no suspicious accoutrements, no large bags which could have contained firearms or knives, etc)

Cash.  The dreaded cash purchases.  In Australian currency no less.  No wonder we were surrounded by supervisors and security goons as the credit-card carrying masses clustered around for a looksee

' You'll have to provide identification' I was instructed in security-prison tones

' Why ?'

' Because we can't accept this much cash (less than $3,000 is 'this much'?) without seeing your identification '

Yes, seriously.  They wanted at minimum a driver's licence and one other form of identification.  And when provided what they claimed they 'must' have, they took their sweet time evaluating it

It was Christmas Eve and I didn't want to have to drive all over this god-forsaken city to buy the laptops elsewhere

also, for all I knew, maybe things had changed recently and they genuinely did need identification before accepting --- gasp, shock horror --- cash

Obviously I have never recommended that particular retailer, nor have I purchased anything else from them

I still don't know --- is it considered 'suspicious activity' these days to pay by cash?

As for JB Hifi --- they're leaving the building and good riddance, considering they employ what I consider to be less than pleasing staff and feel the requirement apparently to employ third-worlders to rummage through customers' personal belongings as if they have all the right in the world while treating the host population as if this nation were officially now a Mumbai slum

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Reply #24 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:00pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 8:45pm:
is it considered 'suspicious activity' these days to pay by cash?



Depends. Do you have any other behavioural traits of a drug dealer? Your familiarity with the tones used by prison guards certainly indicates that there might have been a few other red-flags you were throwing up? Am I wrong?
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Reply #25 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 5:57am
 
Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:00pm:
PZ547 wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 8:45pm:
is it considered 'suspicious activity' these days to pay by cash?



Depends. Do you have any other behavioural traits of a drug dealer? Your familiarity with the tones used by prison guards certainly indicates that there might have been a few other red-flags you were throwing up? Am I wrong?


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Reply #26 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:37am
 
set a pay pal account, and link it to you bk acc and credit accounts, then you won't have id checks.
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Reply #27 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:48am
 
If your delivery address is not the same as the card billing address, the transaction handler (not JB) may request confirmation. This applies also to those who use PO Box numbers for billing addresses and street address for delivery. This is more evident if they are differing towns, suburbs or states.

This is NOT JB's issue, it is the transaction handler who sets the rules. Until 2 years ago I had an online business and I know this to be true. 


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Reply #28 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:38am
 
Guildford wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:48am:
If your delivery address is not the same as the card billing address, the transaction handler (not JB) may request confirmation. This applies also to those who use PO Box numbers for billing addresses and street address for delivery. This is more evident if they are differing towns, suburbs or states.

This is NOT JB's issue, it is the transaction handler who sets the rules. Until 2 years ago I had an online business and I know this to be true. 




That may be true (although i have bought stuff for other ppl heaps @ other online stores and put their address for delivery and not had a problem) but my credit card address *is* the same as my home address. Come to think of it - WTF? That makes it even more stupid that they wanted me to prove it.

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Reply #29 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:40am
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:37am:
set a pay pal account, and link it to you bk acc and credit accounts, then you won't have id checks.


Yeah i prolly should have used paypal. I forgot about it - not sure it was an option.

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