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Reply #30 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
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  Forgiveness must be sincere or it has no power and you heap coals of negativity and condemnation on yourself...I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness...it is a perfunctory defense mechanism for you...not true forgiveness...   

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I never forgive and never forget...except for those absolutely closest to me...once someone has revealed their intent, I expect and hold them to that there is no peace, there is just what you do...

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you are forgiven for hypocrisy

namaste

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There is no conflict in what I said...you lied and your forgiveness is not sincere and you are not forgiven... :) :)
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Reply #31 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:00pm
 
Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

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haha good one

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Reply #32 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:01pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:11pm:
and once everyone forgives you

you shall be cleansed...

and so it is

blessings and compassion upon it




Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.


It's needed, Avram.
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Reply #33 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:01pm
 
There is no conflict in what I said...you lied and your forgiveness is not sincere and you are not forgiven... :) :)

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why?

because i am not your relation?

i am your brother being

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Reply #34 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:04pm
 
Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

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i have forgiven you and im not jewish

the intent is there and has been delivered,

in reality

you have been forgiven

we co create reality here and

by you closing your eyes

and refusing to see the light is on saying

no its still dark,its still dark...while bathed in LIGHT

reality dictates you are in light no matter how hard

you close your eyes beloved brother being

bodhisattva

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Reply #35 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:06pm
 
MOTR wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:01pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:11pm:
and once everyone forgives you

you shall be cleansed...

and so it is

blessings and compassion upon it




Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.


It's needed, Avram.



Please tell me, I will love to know
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Reply #36 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:15pm
 
Portraying Jews as one dimensional stereotypes is antisemetic in my book.
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Reply #37 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm
 
Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.
That is script.
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Reply #38 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:35pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm:
Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.
That is script.


Jesus said, "forgive one another." Was he just talking to Jews or Gentiles?
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Reply #39 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:40pm
 
Jesus is not the Messiah in Judaism so it is not my place for comment.
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Reply #40 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:52pm
 
Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

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care for all?

including goyem and regard these as equal?

thats wonderful

many blessings

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Reply #41 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:54pm
 
Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

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do you have any proof of this?

bodhisattva

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Reply #42 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:55pm
 
It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.

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interesting.

so you can perform trespass of a gentile and

defile/rob them?

and the gentile is not allowed to forgive the jew?

where is the peace in this?

i would suggest there is no peace because the script

is racist against non jew,is this the correct

interpretation?

namaste
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Reply #43 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:26pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm:
Jews are many things.

Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.



Very true Avram.




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It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.
That is script.









it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:55pm:

interesting.

so you can perform trespass of a gentile and

defile/rob them?

and the gentile is not allowed to forgive the jew?


where is the peace in this?

i would suggest there is no peace because the script

is racist against non jew,is this the correct

interpretation?

namaste






light,

If a Jew commits any 'trespass' [even a trespass against a gentile], his higher trespass is always against his God.

So even if the a gentile [in his heart] forgave the Jew, that is not the end of the process [of forgiveness].

Because the Jew still requires 'cleansing', which is acceptable, to satisfy his God.

So no gentile can adequately forgive the trespass of a Jew.

Jews must [ultimately] seek the forgiveness of their God.
...as must we all!!



Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.....




The Jewish people are the 'type' for all of the peoples of the world,
.....as sheep who have gone astray in the world.

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Reply #44 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:44pm
 
MOTR wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:35pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm:
Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.
That is script.



Jesus said, "forgive one another."






More correctly, Jesus said;

Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.


Matthew 18:15
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.


Leviticus 19:18
.....thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.






Quote:

Was he just talking to Jews or Gentiles?






Jesus said,

Matthew 15:24
.....I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


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