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Reply #120 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:16pm

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Which has nothing at all to do with being "married".

It lets them be like everyone else. Not "separate" . . . unequal.

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Much is spoken of the "benefits" of being married - what are they?

I already answered that.

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It forces me to contravene my principles. I understand this is meaningless to you, as you have none, but it's actually a pretty big deal

Why would it do anything to your principles? You dont have to be gay if you dont want. Perhaps you shouldn't have principles that involve other ppls living arrangements.

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They already have the right to marry. They have all the rights that you and I do. But they don't, nor should they ever, have the right to change what marriage is.

Howard changed what marriage is - he did it without a referendum or anything. He must be gay huh? Anyway the same crap was said about interracial marriage.

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Reply #121 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

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Reply #122 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

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SPOT,

You are a very sad, mixed up person. [ <----- that is me calling you, a name.]

AND, where in this post [below] did Gizmo call you names [...to be called by you, 'Dickwad' ] ???

Who wants peace?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344200100/11#11

Yeah yadda did you see what i was replying to?

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Reply #123 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

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Or you were wrong and blaming the other person is just your way of excusing your behaviour. Ever wonder why you seem to have the same problem with many different people on this forum? Or do you excuse that as well by convincing yourself that they are all socks of the same person?

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Reply #124 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:42pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

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Which has nothing at all to do with being "married".

It lets them be like everyone else. Not "separate" . . . unequal.

But they're not "like everyone else" in that regard. They're homos. Marriage is a formal recognition of the complementary nature of man and woman. It does not apply to homos. It never has, and even if we make it "offocial" it never really will mean anything other than that. We can say "everyones a winner" but it really is an empty, token gesture.

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Much is spoken of the "benefits" of being married - what are they?

I already answered that.
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No you didn't. Why do you always claim to have answered things that you clearly haven't?

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It forces me to contravene my principles. I understand this is meaningless to you, as you have none, but it's actually a pretty big deal

Why would it do anything to your principles? You dont have to be gay if you dont want. Perhaps you shouldn't have principles that involve other ppls living arrangements.
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I don't give a bugger about peoples "living arrangements". Maybe they shouldn't have principles that involve them demanding people fundamentally change homoured and respected traditions to accommodate them?

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They already have the right to marry. They have all the rights that you and I do. But they don't, nor should they ever, have the right to change what marriage is.

Howard changed what marriage is - he did it without a referendum or anything. He must be gay huh? Anyway the same crap was said about interracial marriage.
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No he didn't you dumbshit. He simply put what was always understood in writing to stifle you "where is it written" clowns.

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Reply #125 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 5:49pm

If homosexuality is indistinguishable from non-homosexuality, then everything is indistinguishable from everything else. We are all the same. If so, there is absolutely no ground to argue that any other deviation from heterosexuality is deviant.

Everything is made to be normal. If you want to stick your wick into whatever, your wanting is all that matters. Wanting is normal, so wanting to stick it up yer (your fetish here) is therefore perfectly normal.

Marry any and all objects of your sexual desires, animal, vegetable or mineral, it's all the same. You want it, you've got it. Who's to say otherwise?

In other words, if the limitation of marriage as between a man and a woman is removed, then there is no possible non-arbitrary ground to impose any other limitation on who can marry whom or what or their number.

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Reply #126 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 8:07pm

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Since you take all the references out of posts and you didnt answer the question you can do the scrolling back to see what it was about yourself like you make me do all the time.

Spot this is only necessary because your standard response to any criticism is to repeat yourself, so it takes about ten times as long to have a discussion with you as it does with anyone else.

Here is the basics: Abu rejects democracy and freedom and wants to stone apostates to death. I quoted him previously for your benefit. You refused to believe it and insisted I was making it up. I can quote him again for you. That would make more sense than quoting a series of confused responses from you where you forgot what we were talking about. You also keep claiming that Abu has said he does not want Shariah law for Australia. He did not actually say this. Obviously I cannot quote this for you as I have no idea why you are so confused about it and it is kind of hard to quote him not saying something. I can quote you plenty of times where he has recently given dodgy excuses for not giving a straight answer to this question.

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Reply #127 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:03am

Quantum wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

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Or you were wrong and blaming the other person is just your way of excusing your behaviour. Ever wonder why you seem to have the same problem with many different people on this forum? Or do you excuse that as well by convincing yourself that they are all socks of the same person?

Nope i have the problem with 2 ppl freediver and you. well longy lies but not the same.

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Reply #128 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:09am

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But they're not "like everyone else" in that regard.

They are. They are human they can get married and have children and live normal lives. Well if they get equal rights which eventually they will just like interracial couples did.

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No you didn't. Why do you always claim to have answered things that you clearly haven't?

Yes i did - why do youi always want me to repeat myself? They get the benefits of being able to adopt and inherit and whatever other benefits marriage bestows.

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I don't give a bugger about peoples "living arrangements". Maybe they shouldn't have principles that involve them demanding people fundamentally change homoured and respected traditions to accommodate them?

Like those interracial couples did? Changed the meaning of marriage didnt they.

Look its a piece of paper. The religious crap remains religious crap. Nobody is forcing churches to perform gay ceremonies. Most gays arent religious anyway i expect.

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No he didn't you dumbshit. He simply put what was always understood in writing to stifle you "where is it written" clowns.

Yes. He did you dumbshit. He changed it to mean "between a man and a woman" just so it would be harder for gays tog et equal rights.

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Reply #129 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:12am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

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Or you were wrong and blaming the other person is just your way of excusing your behaviour. Ever wonder why you seem to have the same problem with many different people on this forum? Or do you excuse that as well by convincing yourself that they are all socks of the same person?

Nope i have the problem with 2 ppl freediver and you. well longy lies but not the same.

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Just count the amount of people in just this thread who you are arguing with. Are they all at fault?

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Reply #130 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:21am

Quantum wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

SOB

Or you were wrong and blaming the other person is just your way of excusing your behaviour. Ever wonder why you seem to have the same problem with many different people on this forum? Or do you excuse that as well by convincing yourself that they are all socks of the same person?

Nope i have the problem with 2 ppl freediver and you. well longy lies but not the same.

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Just count the amount of people in just this thread who you are arguing with. Are they all at fault?

I think your math is a lil lacking. Those are ppl that have a problem with me. Werent you talking about ppl that lie and misrepresent and misquote? Wasnt that what you were talking about? That was what you accused me of saying "lots of ppl" do? I said it was only 2. What are you on about now?

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Reply #132 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:40am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:21am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

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I was nothing but polite until you started accusing me of being a liar, misquoting, and being a sock. That seems to be your behavior towards anyone with a different opinion to you. You throw the first punch and then blame the other person.

If i accused you of that then you must have been doing it. It seems to be the way xtians argue when they dont like what im saying they just change it.

SOB

Or you were wrong and blaming the other person is just your way of excusing your behaviour. Ever wonder why you seem to have the same problem with many different people on this forum? Or do you excuse that as well by convincing yourself that they are all socks of the same person?

Nope i have the problem with 2 ppl freediver and you. well longy lies but not the same.

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Just count the amount of people in just this thread who you are arguing with. Are they all at fault?

I think your math is a lil lacking. Those are ppl that have a problem with me. Werent you talking about ppl that lie and misrepresent and misquote? Wasnt that what you were talking about? That was what you accused me of saying "lots of ppl" do? I said it was only 2. What are you on about now?

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No, the full list was accusing people of being liars, misquoting and misrepresenting, of being brain washed, stupid, of being socks, and being bigots, etc, and basically every thread turning into an argument if people have a different opinion to you.

This thread is you arguing with about ten different people. Were they all at fault? Did they all throw the first punch and you're just defending yourself?

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Reply #133 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 9:05am

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I think your math is a lil lacking. Those are ppl that have a problem with me. Werent you talking about ppl that lie and misrepresent and misquote?

Spot makes this accusation constantly. But every time I call him on it he says he 'doesn't have time' to go back and check what he or someone else actually said, or something silly like that. Previously he pretended he could not follow the links in quotes. He just changes his mind and pretends he never said it and anyone who says different is a liar and misrepresenting him. Spot cannot give you a single example where I have misrepresented him.

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Reply #134 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 10:03am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

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But they're not "like everyone else" in that regard.

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They are.

No, they are not.

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They are human

Very good.

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they can get married

Not in Australia they can't.

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and have children

Not by themselves they can't.

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and live normal lives.

Yeah. Which they can do without being married.

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No you didn't. Why do you always claim to have answered things that you clearly haven't?

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Yes i did - why do youi always want me to repeat myself? They get the benefits of being able to adopt and inherit and whatever other benefits marriage bestows. [quote]

And thats what I'm asking - what are these "other benefits"?

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Like those interracial couples did? Changed the meaning of marriage didnt they.

No, not at all. A black man is still a man. A white woman is still a woman.

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No he didn't you dumbshit. He simply put what was always understood in writing to stifle you "where is it written" clowns.

Yes. He did you dumbshit. He changed it to mean "between a man and a woman" just so it would be harder for gays tog et equal rights.

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So homos could get married before he amended the marriage act? No??? So he didn't change anything did he? Just closed a loophole that some msrtarses thought they could exploit.

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