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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49308 At my desk.	Re: SOBs unjustified prejudice Reply #180 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 12:10pm Well done spot. You are getting closer to what he actually said. Maybe one day you will be able to quote him and show what he actually said rather than putting your own words in his mouth. Here are some more of your own claims to backpeddle on: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344636735/6#6
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Reply #181 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:06pm

To be fair to the puss, Abu is not exactly representative of the typical Muslim (if there is such a person)

I've found that it's pretty irrelevent what Abu actually says, because he'd make a lot of Muslims squirm. He's somewhere between a newbie and a wannabe Muslim, and I base that on knowing Muslims from various parts of the world including Turkey, Indonesia, Egypt, Tanzania and Guinea.

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Reply #182 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

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I've found that it's pretty irrelevent what Abu actually says, because he'd make a lot of Muslims squirm.

For some strange reason he does not make spot squirm, even though spot pretends to be at the forefront of opposing religious extremism. Spot even seems to think Abu is a mainstream Muslim. Perhaps that is just because Abu said he is.

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Reply #183 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:15pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:38am:

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Not in power anywhere? I'm pretty sure it's in power somewhere on this planet.

Lil bit picky isnt it? Fine maybe its in power somewhere on the planet. Where? Not even afghanistan. . . it could be somewhere though that hasnt been in the media because its not got any oil or isnt making any noise or maybe they arent occupied.

Palestine and Sudan I understand, although there are elements of Sharia in Iran.

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Reply #184 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:20pm

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:38am:

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Not in power anywhere? I'm pretty sure it's in power somewhere on this planet.

Lil bit picky isnt it? Fine maybe its in power somewhere on the planet. Where? Not even afghanistan. . . it could be somewhere though that hasnt been in the media because its not got any oil or isnt making any noise or maybe they arent occupied.

Palestine and Sudan I understand, although there are elements of Sharia in Iran.

Somalia.
They stoned to death a 13 year old rape victim under their barbaric Sharia law.

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Reply #185 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:25pm

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

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I've found that it's pretty irrelevent what Abu actually says, because he'd make a lot of Muslims squirm.

For some strange reason he does not make spot squirm, even though spot pretends to be at the forefront of opposing religious extremism. Spot even seems to think Abu is a mainstream Muslim. Perhaps that is just because Abu said he is.

More lies.

I never said he was extremist or mainstream. In fact i remember saying i dont know what he is. I havent talked to him enough to tell and am not likely to in this environment.

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Reply #186 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:28pm

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:38am:

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Not in power anywhere? I'm pretty sure it's in power somewhere on this planet.

Lil bit picky isnt it? Fine maybe its in power somewhere on the planet. Where? Not even afghanistan. . . it could be somewhere though that hasnt been in the media because its not got any oil or isnt making any noise or maybe they arent occupied.

Palestine and Sudan I understand, although there are elements of Sharia in Iran.

Palestine? Gaza? All of it? Or just parts?

From what i hear they did elect some extremists to government so it is believable. Of course they are a desperate bunch of ppl and they will prolly try anything to get out of their situation.

Dont know anything about sudan - you are prolly right.

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Reply #187 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:46pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:20pm:

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:38am:

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Not in power anywhere? I'm pretty sure it's in power somewhere on this planet.

Lil bit picky isnt it? Fine maybe its in power somewhere on the planet. Where? Not even afghanistan. . . it could be somewhere though that hasnt been in the media because its not got any oil or isnt making any noise or maybe they arent occupied.

Palestine and Sudan I understand, although there are elements of Sharia in Iran.

Somalia.
They stoned to death a 13 year old rape victim under their barbaric Sharia law.

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Reply #188 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:53pm

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I never said he was extremist or mainstream.

So tell us spot, when Abu says he wants to destroy democracy, freedom etc and bring in the death penalty for apostasy, does this clarify it for you, or are you a bit slow to make up your mind? Remember, I can quote him for you on any of this stuff.

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Abu is not personally trying to bring it about. I had thought he was a radical from all the crap you have been saying about him but he may just be a normal religious person.

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I havent talked to him enough to tell and am not likely to in this environment.

Why is that? Because your mutual self delusion is being pointed out to you?

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Reply #189 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 3:18pm

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:53pm:

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I never said he was extremist or mainstream.

So tell us spot, when Abu says he wants to destroy democracy, freedom etc and bring in the death penalty for apostasy, does this clarify it for you, or are you a bit slow to make up your mind? Remember, I can quote him for you on any of this stuff.

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Abu is not personally trying to bring it about. I had thought he was a radical from all the crap you have been saying about him but he may just be a normal religious person.

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I havent talked to him enough to tell and am not likely to in this environment.

Why is that? Because your mutual self delusion is being pointed out to you?

I havent seen any quoted of him saying he wants to destroy "democracy" and "freedom" anyway but listen - if he CANT and he accept that he cant and he wont then he doesnt want to (even if its because he cant)? thats logic not what you are saying - what you are saying isnt logic.

Mostly what you are saying is out of context quotes that dont even say what you say they do even out of context though. Why would i believe an out of context quote about abu from you? Not that any of them said it anyway.

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Reply #190 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 4:57pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

I would call yeman, saudi and many other coutries islamic states.

Anywhere where there are laws such as "death to homos", "women treated as 2nd class citizens", "preference given to muslims", "any nonislamic belief treated poorly".

there are many other laws indicating this situation.
The overall indicator being political leaders being imans.
ie, a religious belief being in power.

Which is a very bad thing as far as I am concerned.

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Muslim countries of the World
Name Population % of Muslims
1 Afaganistan 18M 99%
2 Albania 2.3M 75%
3 Algeria 22M 98%
4 Bahrain .220M 99%
5 Bangladesh 100M 85%
6 Cameroon 6.2M 55%
7 Central African Republic 2M 55%
8 Chad 4M 85%
9 Dahomey 3M 60%
10 Egypt 51M 93%
11 Ethiopia 27M 65%
12 Gambia .4M 85%
13 Guinea 4.3M 95%
14 Guinea-Bissau .81M 70%
15 Indonesia 161M 95%
16 Iran 48M 98%
17 Iraq 14.5M 95%
18 Ivory Coast 5M 55%
19 Jordan 3M 95%
20 Kuwait 1M 98%
21 Lebanon 3M 57%
22 Libya 3M 100%
23 Malaysia 14.5M 52%
24 Maldive Islands 12M 100%
25 Mali 6M 90%
26 Mauritania 2M 100%
27 Morocco 24M 99%
28 Niger 4.5M 91%
29 Nigeria 100M 75%
30 Oman .75M 100%
31 Pakistan 90M 97%
32 Qatar .18M 100%
33 Saudi Arabia 10.5M 100
34 Senegal 7M 95%
35 Sierra Leone 3M 65%
36 Somalia 5M 100%
37 South Yemen 1.5M 95%
38 Sudan 22M 85%
39 Syria 11M 87%
40 Tanzania 15M 65%
41 Togo 2.1M 55%
42 Tunisia 7M 95%
43 Turkey 66M 99%
44 U.A.E .32M 100%
45 Upper Volta 6M 56%
46 North Yemen 6M 99%

http://arabicpaper.tripod.com/country.html

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: SOBs unjustified prejudice Reply #191 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:54pm Well some are mostly islamic like america is mostly xtian. The law is not sharia. SOB
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40764 Gender:	Re: SOBs unjustified prejudice Reply #192 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 6:38pm i think that;s just semantics SOB. their legal system is islamic, they behead adulterors and homos. The popn is overwhelming muslim. It'ld be a very bad idea to go to many of those coiuntries and speak out against mohs ways or preach Jesus on the streets.
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Reply #193 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:29pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

I havent seen any quoted of him saying he wants to destroy "democracy" and "freedom" anyway

Here you go Spot, try thinking for yourself:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 6:12am:

I do not want a secular society, I want a society based on the true word of God.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

What nonsense. I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.

It is a very different picture when Abu talks about what he wants rather than whether he is going to overthrow the Australian government tomorrow isn't it? If Abu can tell the difference, why can't you?

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Mostly what you are saying is out of context quotes that dont even say what you say they do even out of context though.

Are you accusing me of editing quotes Spot? Please provide an example. For someone who likes to say what others want and get it completely backwards you sure make a lot of accusations about this sort of thing.

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Why would i believe an out of context quote about abu from you? Not that any of them said it anyway.

Then follow the links spot. It is really that simple. You are using your own stupidity as an excuse for burying your head in the sand and pretending Abu never said these things.

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Reply #194 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:59pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:20pm:

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 5:38am:

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Not in power anywhere? I'm pretty sure it's in power somewhere on this planet.

Lil bit picky isnt it? Fine maybe its in power somewhere on the planet. Where? Not even afghanistan. . . it could be somewhere though that hasnt been in the media because its not got any oil or isnt making any noise or maybe they arent occupied.

Palestine and Sudan I understand, although there are elements of Sharia in Iran.

Somalia.
They stoned to death a 13 year old rape victim under their barbaric Sharia law.

Muslims are barbaric pre-historic apes.

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