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Reply #300 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Like I said spot, each of those questions is linked. You can follow the links to see Abu's response.

Have you forgotten how to follow links again Spot?
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Reply #301 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 1:40pm
 
So? What is your point? We were talking about that question obviously its something different now. You need to talk to abu if you want to know what he thinks.

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Reply #302 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 1:56pm
 
Apologies Spot, I am making it too complicated for you again. This is what we are talking about:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:36am:
He said he didnt want sharia law in australia.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:12am:
You are quoting his book. I quote your book. He doesnt follow his and you dont follow yours. They both say ppl should be killed for apostasy.


Abu fooled you. He did not say those things. You cannot quote him because he did not say it.

You got all confused because you asked me for links to where Abu did not say it. I was trying to explain to you that I cannot link to where Abu did not say something. It is up to you to back up the claim about what you think he said. Please quote him.

I can give you a list of quotes with links (I linked to this on the previous page) where you asked him in simple terms and he did not give a straight answer, but you would have to follow the links to see the context - doing this is a concept you have so far never been able to comprehend.

Have you forgotten how to follow links again?
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Reply #303 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:25pm
 
Here you go spot. This is what it looks like when Abu says what he wants. There underlining is his, not mine:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 6:12am:
I do not want a secular society, I want a society based on the true word of God.

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Reply #304 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 3:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Apologies Spot, I am making it too complicated for you again. This is what we are talking about:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:36am:
He said he didnt want sharia law in australia.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:12am:
You are quoting his book. I quote your book. He doesnt follow his and you dont follow yours. They both say ppl should be killed for apostasy.


Abu fooled you. He did not say those things. You cannot quote him because he did not say it.

You got all confused because you asked me for links to where Abu did not say it. I was trying to explain to you that I cannot link to where Abu did not say something. It is up to you to back up the claim about what you think he said. Please quote him.

I can give you a list of quotes with links (I linked to this on the previous page) where you asked him in simple terms and he did not give a straight answer, but you would have to follow the links to see the context - doing this is a concept you have so far never been able to comprehend.

Have you forgotten how to follow links again?


I went through this a page ago. Cant you read? What is your problem? Obviously you have no skills @ reading and comprehension.  You were right there when i asked him the question and he answered. I dont remember where the thread is now it was too long ago and your  obsession has carried on too long. You remember it though and you are lying if you say you werent. You phrased the question and i used your phrasing. As for your 2 quotes there i dealt with them a few pages ago too. Friggin back off mate you are insane.

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Reply #305 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:25pm:
Here you go spot. This is what it looks like when Abu says what he wants. There underlining is his, not mine:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 6:12am:
I do not want a secular society, I want a society based on the true word of God.



So? I addressed that @ the time too (which i might add was NOT the time or context of the question you keep going on about - or even the same topic). Why do you bring up old stuff all the time expecting  different answers?

So what? Nearly all religious ppl want everyone to be like them and follow their religion. Thats how it is but we have a secular society in australia and the xtians are more of a threat than the muslims. I have said this before. Now you will go on and on and on about 1 part of 1 sentence wont you.

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Reply #306 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:05pm
 
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I went through this a page ago. Cant you read? What is your problem? Obviously you have no skills @ reading and comprehension.  You were right there when i asked him the question and he answered. I dont remember where the thread is now it was too long ago


Spot, please read this very slowly, then read it again, then think before responding. Here is a list of some of the questions you asked Abu, including the one where you asked him in simple terms whether he wants Shariah law for Australia (probably the one you are referring to, but who knows?).

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344119653

In case you get all confused again, it is the very first post in a thread on the Islam board called "does Abu want Shariah law for Australia?". Do you remember how to follow links?

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and your  obsession has carried on too long.


It is patience spot, not obsession. I am giving you a chance to realise you are wrong. It takes a special kind of obsession to go on insisting you are right in the face of the evidence.

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You remember it though and you are lying if you say you werent.


Yes Spot that is why I gave you the links already, and am giving them to you again now, and trying to explain to you that you can follow them. You remember how they work don't you?

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As for your 2 quotes there i dealt with them a few pages ago too.


No you didn't spot, at least not by any sane interpretation of 'dealing with'. Abu never said the things you claim for him and you cannot back it up. Here they are again, seeing as you are still so confused:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:36am:
He said he didnt want sharia law in australia.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:12am:
You are quoting his book. I quote your book. He doesnt follow his and you dont follow yours. They both say ppl should be killed for apostasy.


Now remember Spot, there are links above the quote to where you said it, and a link above to the questions you asked, with even more links to the context. Don't follow them all at once in case you get too confused, but at least try to figure it out for yourself before asking me to give you the links again.

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Why do you bring up old stuff all the time expecting  different answers?


Because it is an example of Abu saying what he actually wants, rather than the non-answers that you sare still so deluded about. I am hoping you might learn to tell the difference.
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Reply #307 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:09pm
 
Here you go spot, I added #16 for you:

1) Spot says something really stupid.
2) Spot repeats himself, seemingly oblivious to what other people say.
3) Spot changes the topic.
4) Spot denies saying stupid thing.
5) Spot demands people prove that he said it.
6) Spot accuses them of lying, misrepresenting him, editing quotes, quoting him out of context etc.
7) Spot denies that he denied saying stupid thing.
8) Spot pretends to be too silly to follow links.
9) Spot says he isn't interested in links anyway.
10) Spot demands the same links again.
11) Spot complains about links and accuses people of 'quote mining'.
12) Spot gets all confused about what the topic is and tries to change it again.
13) Spot demands people prove something else before he will address stupid thing he said.
14) Spot retreats to the safety of vague generalisations and meaningless accusations.
15) Spot complains that he said it too long ago and he now expects other people to prove something did not happen, rather than him showing where it did happen as he claimed.
16) Spot claims he has already backed up his claims, but does not know where.
17) Spot parrots accusations back at the accuser.
18) Spot ignores topic for a while.
19) Spot says same stupid thing and restarts the process.
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Reply #308 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:11pm
 
Does it matter that most of you guys do the exact same stuff fd, or is it only bad when someone you disagree with does it?
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Reply #309 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:12pm
 
I have never seen anyone else use stupidity as a weapon the way spot does. It is a new low. I have never seen anyone else pretend to have such difficulty following links - and this is a guy who has his own website and forum.
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Reply #310 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
I have never seen anyone else use stupidity as a weapon the way spot does. It is a new low. I have never seen anyone else pretend to have such difficulty following links - and this is a guy who has his own website and forum.

Well excuse me for not taking you seriously when you obviously ignore other people doing it.
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Reply #311 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:28pm
 
Are you saying you agree with me, but I am doing something wrong by not pulling up every single example I see? I only pull spot up on it now because he kept it up for 20 pages.
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Reply #312 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
I have never seen anyone else use stupidity as a weapon the way spot does. It is a new low. I have never seen anyone else pretend to have such difficulty following links - and this is a guy who has his own website and forum.



Which is a convincing reason to believe that;

SPOT = = dissembler

OR,

SPOT <>, is not 'kosher'              Grin          Grin          Grin         


Dictionary;
dissemble = = hide or disguise one’s true motives or feelings.








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October 13th, 2010 10:23
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MODERATE ISLAM/MUSLIM

.....But I see what most people say are “moderate Muslims" are those Muslims who work and live peacefully within their communities not causing any problems with their neighbours. But they, nevertheless are as devout in their beliefs as “orthodox Muslims" but exist peacefully. I assess such Muslims as most likely “dormant Muslims" or “sleeper Muslims" who are playing a low profile in an alien or unfriendly environment but may become activated when called upon. These are the Muslims who will not raise their voices against the Islamic Jihadists who perpetrated the 9/11 atrocities in New York, or the 7/7 carnage in London because it is not politic to do so. They may even rejoice quietly among themselves when they see Islam winning over non-Muslims. In fact these Muslims empathize with the cause of Islamic Jihadists worldwide but lie low. They will in all probability surreptitiously give material or spiritual or moral support to Islamic Jihadist quietly or demonstrate by dancing and shouting Allahu Akbar on occasions like 9/11 or 7/7. But they are, in truth, orthodox Muslims, living a quiet and peaceful life, and unobtrusive or lying low, yet loyally and piously Muslim. Perhaps he is even a Jihadist sleeper.
Why the Deafening Silence from Moderate Muslims after 9/11 and 7/7 and others?
Because if they are “religious" Muslims who know the commands of Allah and know the contents of the Qur’an but are lying low, hiding their real feelings and are unable to condemn such acts (as one Muslim never squeals on another,) because they know it is Allah’s Islamic Martyrdom at work, as the Qur’an has commanded:
Qur’an:2:216 “Jihad [holy fighting in Allah's Cause] is ordained for you [Muslims], though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not." [Another translation reads] “Warfare is ordained for you."
....These Moderate Muslims are not Muslims who have accepted the peaceful aspects and rejected the militant aspects of Islam, because by rejecting any part of the Qur’an amounts to rejecting the Word of Allah, and that is blasphemy, and the penalty is death. So taking this into consideration, either a Muslim accepts the whole of Islam or he is an apostate. An apostate is not a Muslim, he is a “non-Muslim." So calling a Muslim a “Moderate Muslim" implies he is not an orthodox Muslim, but a “false Muslim." So either a Muslim is a Muslim accepting all the conditions expected of a Muslim or he is an apostate. There can be no half-Muslim.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/abdulmuhd/amuhd/203/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-modera...


Quoted from the article above....
".....hiding their real feelings.."
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Taqiyya defined, at an ISLAMIC site...


"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies  at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury."  A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation." "

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html


Dictionary;
dissimulate = = hide or disguise one’s thoughts or feelings. ‘to conceal’.





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Reply #313 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 5:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:05pm:
Blah blah blah blah ad nauseum


Its just a page of you quoting me again.

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Reply #314 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 5:32pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:36pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
I have never seen anyone else use stupidity as a weapon the way yadda does. It is a new low. I have never seen anyone else pretend to have such difficulty following links - and this is a guy who has his own website and forum.



Which is a convincing reason to believe that;

YADDA = = dissembler

OR,

YADDA <>, is not 'kosher'              Grin          Grin          Grin         


Dictionary;
dissemble = = hide or disguise one’s true motives or feelings.



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October 13th, 2010 10:23
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MODERATE ISLAM/MUSLIM

.....But I see what most people say are “moderate Muslims" are those Muslims who work and live peacefully within their communities not causing any problems with their neighbours. But they, nevertheless are as devout in their beliefs as “orthodox Muslims" but exist peacefully. I assess such Muslims as most likely “dormant Muslims" or “sleeper Muslims" who are playing a low profile in an alien or unfriendly environment but may become activated when called upon. These are the Muslims who will not raise their voices against the Islamic Jihadists who perpetrated the 9/11 atrocities in New York, or the 7/7 carnage in London because it is not politic to do so. They may even rejoice quietly among themselves when they see Islam winning over non-Muslims. In fact these Muslims empathize with the cause of Islamic Jihadists worldwide but lie low. They will in all probability surreptitiously give material or spiritual or moral support to Islamic Jihadist quietly or demonstrate by dancing and shouting Allahu Akbar on occasions like 9/11 or 7/7. But they are, in truth, orthodox Muslims, living a quiet and peaceful life, and unobtrusive or lying low, yet loyally and piously Muslim. Perhaps he is even a Jihadist sleeper.
Why the Deafening Silence from Moderate Muslims after 9/11 and 7/7 and others?
Because if they are “religious" Muslims who know the commands of Allah and know the contents of the Qur’an but are lying low, hiding their real feelings and are unable to condemn such acts (as one Muslim never squeals on another,) because they know it is Allah’s Islamic Martyrdom at work, as the Qur’an has commanded:
Qur’an:2:216 “Jihad [holy fighting in Allah's Cause] is ordained for you [Muslims], though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not." [Another translation reads] “Warfare is ordained for you."
....These Moderate Muslims are not Muslims who have accepted the peaceful aspects and rejected the militant aspects of Islam, because by rejecting any part of the Qur’an amounts to rejecting the Word of Allah, and that is blasphemy, and the penalty is death. So taking this into consideration, either a Muslim accepts the whole of Islam or he is an apostate. An apostate is not a Muslim, he is a “non-Muslim." So calling a Muslim a “Moderate Muslim" implies he is not an orthodox Muslim, but a “false Muslim." So either a Muslim is a Muslim accepting all the conditions expected of a Muslim or he is an apostate. There can be no half-Muslim.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/abdulmuhd/amuhd/203/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-modera...


Quoted from the article above....
".....hiding their real feelings.."


Taqiyya defined, at an ISLAMIC site...


"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies  at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury."  A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation." "

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html


Dictionary;
dissimulate = = hide or disguise one’s thoughts or feelings. ‘to conceal’.




Just a heads up yadda i dont read your blue stuff. You are a moslem and so religious. Get the behind me iblis.

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