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Reply #75 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:08pm

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Utter bullshit. Atheism is a lack of belief in fairy tales. It is not a worldview - its a lack of a fairy tale view.

Modern (trendy) atheism is just another word for liberalism - a worldview complete with it's own set of fairytales.

No there is no "worldview" associated with atheism. Its just a lack of belief. There are sme atheists who subscribe to whatever you mean by "liberalism" i guess but not all because it has nothing to do with atheism.

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Reply #76 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:11pm

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

... wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

Round n round we go.Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

consent

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PS full circle i see

Indeed round n round we go. And round n round we will continue to go, until you admit that IF you accept the premise that a bloke can be someones wife, you will ALSO need to accept that the role of "wife" can be performed by animals, vegetables or minerals as well.

So you dont understand the concept of consent. I am surprised you arent in jail.

BTW why wife? why not husband? lol you have problems mate.

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And round we go back to "consent" being the sticking point.

Of course, when I point out that many a 10 year old girl would consent to marrying a bloke, you'll say "but that's against the law" to which I'll reply "so was homosexuality a few short decades ago" to which you'll reply "yes but it is'nt now" to which I'll reply "so what's to stop paedos lobbying in the same way homos did" to which you'll reply "society doesn't accept paedos" to which I'll reply "they didn't accept homos either, yet lobbying can change that".................and so on and so forth.

Only because you ignored it. Consent is the point. a 10 year old cant give consent. An animal cant give consent. A human adult can.

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Reply #77 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

... wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

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Utter bullshit. Atheism is a lack of belief in fairy tales. It is not a worldview - its a lack of a fairy tale view.

Modern (trendy) atheism is just another word for liberalism - a worldview complete with it's own set of fairytales.

No there is no "worldview" associated with atheism. Its just a lack of belief. There are sme atheists who subscribe to whatever you mean by "liberalism" i guess but not all because it has nothing to do with atheism.

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haha - some.
Try upwards of 95%. Atheist is a code word for "leftwad drone".

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: SOBs unjustified prejudice Reply #79 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:23pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:06pm: Soren wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 2:18pm: Where does it say that marriage must be based on consensus? Pretty sure in australia unconsensual marriage is illegal SOB Didn't realise marriage was a purely Australian institutrion.
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Reply #80 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:25pm

Soren wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

Where does it say that marriage must be based on consensus?

Pretty sure in australia unconsensual marriage is illegal

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Didn't realise marriage was a purely Australian institutrion.

Where did you think we were talking about? pay attention.

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Reply #81 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:26pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

Where does it say that marriage must be based on consensus?

Pretty sure in australia unconsensual marriage is illegal

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So the arranged marriages of thousands of 'new Australians' are illegal?

Will you tell them or shall I, mother?

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Reply #82 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:27pm

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So you're sticking with "consent" then.

OK. Lets say an 18 year old bloke consented to marrying his mother.

All good then?

Thats bigamy but you are just being a dick. Theres fantastical and theres realistic. Realistic is human consenting adult with differing sexual preferences marrying. Incest is not a sexual preference since it has nothing to do with gender.

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Reply #83 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:33pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

... wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 3:16pm:

So you're sticking with "consent" then.

OK. Lets say an 18 year old bloke consented to marrying his mother.

All good then?

Thats bigamy but you are just being a dick. Theres fantastical and theres realistic. Realistic is human consenting adult with differing sexual preferences marrying. Incest is not a sexual preference since it has nothing to do with gender.

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Ummm no bigamy is being married to 2 people.

Speaking of which...why shouldn't people be allowed to marry 2, 3 or even 10 people, assuming all parties consent?

It's not your place to dictate what is "realistic" and what isn't. If that boy loves his mama and wants to marry her, on what grounds do you deny them? Consent is all it takes remember?

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Reply #85 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

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Christians pay tax. Considering how many Christians there are in this country; and how many very wealthy Christians are in this country; then Christians probably pay more tax then any other group. So how do they not get a say?

Well organised religion and churches do not pay tax. that is what i have been saying all along that organised religion should stay out of politics. you nice people just try to confuse things by going in circles and quoting out of context and changing goalposts but that was my original statement and ive said it many times in here.

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So why can they have a say yet a group of Christians can not?

Gay groups dont call themselves charities. They dont pretend not to be interested in politics then try to impose their will on others. all they want is equal rights.

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Likewise, you hide behind the word religion to support your case. You ask "how do you decide which sect of which religion should dictate the rules?", when the really question is, what worldview should we live by? Or how should we live in a society with many different views?

No - my question was sarcastic because you were never going to answer it. Thing is if xtians wanna dictate rules to the rest of us then so will muslims and hindus and etc etc. Its all fairy tales. organised religion needs to stay out of the real world. It doesnt belong here.

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You avoide using worldview because atheism is a worldview. You use words like religion and atheism to make two different groups, that way you can set two different standards. That way you can claim that atheist can have a say, while all religions should remain quiet. Again, you want to silence and ridicule anyone who doesn't have the same worldview that you do.

Utter bullshit. Atheism is a lack of belief in fairy tales. It is not a worldview - its a lack of a fairy tale view.

i dont care wtf anyone believes or pretends to believe. Just dont bother other ppl with it and dont shove it down my childrens throats and stay away from politics.

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Yet that is exactly what you are doing by telling everyone who has a different worldview to you to shut up.

You are shoving your worldview down people's throats and trying to control politics by only allowing people with the same worldview as you to speak.

Claiming you don't have a worldview because your an athiest is a joke. Everything you see and hear is being filtered by your view of the world. The only people who dont have a worldview are those who are brain dead.

But. Speaking of brain dead, how is this for a good laugh,

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you nice people just try to confuse things by going in circles and quoting out of context and changing goalposts

Wow... A quick read over what you have said just on this thread alone, followed by that quote. Wow...

It's like you have taken every issue people have of you, stuck it in a sentence, and used it as your own accusation. You have an unbelievable inability of self reflection and evaluation. Why do you think every thread turns into you verse the world? Because everyone else is wrong and is picking on you?

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Re: SOBs unjustified prejudice
Reply #86 - Aug 7^th, 2012 at 4:45pm

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