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The Courier Mail can reveal that Coates was paid $482,040 in his role as AOC president last year, which is slightly ahead of Prime Minister Julia Gillard who earns $481,000
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:02pm
 
We got plenty of silver medals - being 2nd in the world isn't that bad is it?
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:08pm
 
Guildford wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 5:58pm:
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The Courier Mail can reveal that Coates was paid $482,040 in his role as AOC president last year, which is slightly ahead of Prime Minister Julia Gillard who earns $481,000



wow  , not bad.  we'll win a few yachting and shooting gold medals and all will be well.
wheres that archer fairweather when we need him
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:14pm
 
Things are not fixed forever!

There will always be ups & downs, in pretty much everything, anyone can think of and that also applies to Australia's performances, at the Olympic games!
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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:15pm
 
what the heck are these coach's getting???????.

very few PBs in the pool one where we really expect the best..

and I call it lack of discipline..and thats due to the coach..they are dealing with mainly kids.. when I looked at our swimming coach's they are all over weight and old.. what sort of example are they to a bunch of hormonial teen ages...


also its time to teach our HERO'S how to lose... if getting a silver medal is called losing..

I have never seen so many pouts in my life..


dont forget all these poor nations have members of the OC..pretty sickening really.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:32pm
 
I don't thnk its a funding issue, though it could mean that money could be better spent.

Remember when Coates ranted and raced a few years ago when funding was going to be cut for the Sports Commission. Rudd caved and gave them even more.

Look at countries which are performing well nowadays, like South Korea and Japan.
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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:31am
 
Attitude.

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Reply #7 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:48am
 

soren - excellent posting.

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Reply #8 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:01pm
 
I've been trying to copy this but, for some reason, cant...so google "Polish Cycling Team"

It's the team photo of the year!
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Reply #9 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:06pm
 
One dumb movie did more for Australia's image overseas, than all our perceived Olympic Glories.
Perhaps we should focus a little less on sports, and more on intellectual and cultural endeavours.
Of course, Crocodile Dundee was not "high" culture, but it put us on the map internationally, like Borat did for Kazahkstan, which I believe is ranking higher than us at the olympics too, lol.
Sport is a great pastime, but I think too many take it too seriously, and I agree with Cods, that the poor sportsmanship of the bad aussie losers, is a terrible example for our youth.
The Olympics have become far too self important and way too big, with gold medals for synchronised farting the next would be olympic gold medal event.
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Reply #10 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:31pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:06pm:
One dumb movie did more for Australia's image overseas, than all our perceived Olympic Glories.
Perhaps we should focus a little less on sports, and more on intellectual and cultural endeavours.
Of course, Crocodile Dundee was not "high" culture, but it put us on the map internationally, like Borat did for Kazahkstan, which I believe is ranking higher than us at the olympics too, lol.
Sport is a great pastime, but I think too many take it too seriously, and I agree with Cods, that the poor sportsmanship of the bad aussie losers, is a terrible example for our youth.
The Olympics have become far too self important and way too big, with gold medals for synchronised farting the next would be olympic gold medal event.



What kind of 'intellectual and cultural endeavours' should more money be spent on? (There's already millions being spent on universities).
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Reply #11 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:45pm
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
I've been trying to copy this but, for some reason, cant...so google "Polish Cycling Team"

It's the team photo of the year!



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Reply #12 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:58pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:31am:



we're all in this together.

AUSZEALAND in 9th place
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Reply #13 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:19am
 
This article goes some way to explaining what's wrong with the "great sporting nation".

I see he failed to mention fun.  Sports should be about FUN, shouldn't it?
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Why Australia must fight the widening wealth gap between pro and community sports

The hysteria surrounding the failure of Australia’s Olympic team to win its expected haul of gold medals, and the resulting break-out of national hand-wringing, has triggered an avalanche of analysis.

Where has it all gone wrong?  Do our athletes need to train harder, or are we to blame for setting completely unrealistic expectations upon our athletes? Or is there a deeper problem with our national sporting culture?

Indeed, if you look beyond the Olympic athletes, beyond the high-profile professional competitions, you’ll see that many local sporting clubs and organisations are doing it tough.

They’re finding it hard to attract players, even harder to find volunteers, and their facilities are getting run down.

Part of the problem is a growing rift between Big Sport and community sport, with the elite and professional bodies swallowing up the lion’s share of available resources.

High profile professional and elite sport gets preference from all levels of government, from the top down to local councils, not to mention the exclusive attention of the media.

The elite competitions usually justify this disparity by invoking the ‘role model’ argument. According to this theory, watching our sports stars succeed on TV is not just passive entertainment – it’s inspiration, and it encourages us to get off the couch and into the gym.

It’s sport’s version of trickle-down economics – but like trickle-down economics, there’s little evidence to link the theory with reality. The Government’s 2009 review of sports funding, the Crawford Report, questioned the link between elite success and grass roots participation. Moreover, the Crawford Report  argued the number of Olympic gold medals that a nation wins should not be the only indicator of a healthy sporting culture.

According to the Crawford Report, sport is about more than medals – it’s about participation, healthy lifestyles, and the social benefits that accrue from being involved in organised community sports.

With this in mind, the Crawford Report suggested that sports funding programs should provide more support for mass participation sports – the games most Australians like to play, such as cricket, the football codes, netball, golf, hockey and so on.

In the fight over sports funding, the loudest voices always win.  And the loudest voice in Australian sport is John Coates.

The AOC, which was seeking over $100 million a year in extra funding at the time, went into overdrive to discredit the Crawford Report.  AOC President Mr Coates labeled the report “insulting, “disrespectful” and “Un-Australian”.

In response, the Federal Government increased its funding for Olympic programs, and most of the report’s recommendations were quietly forgotten.

Coincidentally, in recent weeks another example of the tension between Big Sport and community sport has quietly opened up in Sydney’s Inner West.

Professional rugby league club Canterbury Bulldogs is locked in a bitter battle with semi-professional soccer club Sydney Olympic over the right to use Belmore Oval – and unsurprisingly, the big professional club is winning.  The two clubs are supposedly sharing access to the ground, yet it’s the smaller club which is being forced to relocate its home matches, while the Bulldogs continue to train at Belmore during the week. This is having a severe impact on Sydney Olympic’s home match revenues.

Ironically, the experience of another local soccer club in the Canterbury region could provide an example of how community sport can start competing more effectively for government resources. 

Last year the Hurlstone Park Wanderers Football Club decided it was sick of waiting for its run-down council-owned facilities to be upgraded. The Hurlstone Park Wanderers decided to stop behaving like a community sports club, and to start behaving like an advocacy group.

The club started a campaign called ‘Space to Play’*, complete with a web site and an on-line petition.  It cultivated the local media, engaged the support of other high-profile soccer personalities, and held a day of action to promote its cause.

Before long the club had secured a new junior-size playing field, with new change rooms, an amenities block, and a commitment to investigate new drainage for its existing field.  The ‘Space to Play’ campaign showed what can be achieved when community clubs get political.

If one club can have such an impact in its local area, imagine what could happen if all community clubs across the country joined together, and found their voice?  If Australia is to be the Great Sporting Land that it purports to be, nothing short of a revolution is needed.

The exclusive focus on elite competition at the expense of local clubs and participation needs to be turned on its head.  We need to watch a bit less and play a bit more.  We’ll all be healthier, and probably a bit happier.

And guess what?  With more people competing, we might even discover some more talented athletes who’ll go on to win Olympic medals.

http://sportbizinsider.com.au/news/category/community-sport/why-we-must-fight-th...
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Reply #14 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:35am
 
We're up to 4 gold now.  Smiley

I bet that buuuuurrrrns you haters up inside.
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