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Re: Is Gillard the full quid?
Reply #15 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:08pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
The fundamental problem here, is that gutless governments have handed over the power to "independent tribunals" like IPART to set pricing.

Who is IPART accountable to ?   No one. 

Why cant the government set pricing ?   because they dont want to cope the flack so they outsource decisions.

Government is supposed to govern.

Yes that sounds like a copout for government. If only they realised if they were honest about wage costs, overall expenditure compared to profit, then the people would swallow the worst of news.

Problem is, the government cant manage shi... and will inveriably find that they stuffed up somewhere and will have to lie to hide what it was, so what the hell, lets just blame IPART.
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Re: Is Gillard the full quid?
Reply #16 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?






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Reply #17 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:27pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?




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Reply #18 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:17pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:27pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?




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You are joking i hope. Whatever government is in office gets your money anyway.

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Reply #19 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:27pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?




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Reply #20 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:22pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:27pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?




On the coalition to win the next election


You are joking i hope. Whatever government is in office gets your money anyway.

SOB


Didn't get mine.
12% overall tax rate in the end....
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Reply #21 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:45pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
The fundamental problem here, is that gutless governments have handed over the power to "independent tribunals" like IPART to set pricing.

Who is IPART accountable to ?   No one. 

Why cant the government set pricing ?   because they dont want to cope the flack so they outsource decisions.

Government is supposed to govern.

This was done by deliberate design by political thugs to circumvent the constitution and implement social law fascism....the only way to stop them is the High Court - we have to sue the freaking hell out of them and take our country back before we are ruled from Beijing in some Asian Union or some other foreign located global federated parliament...wake up and smell the roses - they are stripping our constitution, ratbags who may be your neighbor and we have to sue these other truckers to defend rights that are ours...before they start charging us starvation rates for the use of land, food and resources that are our assets... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #22 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 3:00pm
 
Miss Gillard has not been the full quid ever since its menopause started. It is really time the red witch got onto the broom and rode off to a quiet retirement somewhere near Ayres Rock.

Still, the poor old cane toad is holding the door open for Mr Abbott to walk in and chase the Communist Greens and their stupid unsustainable Socialist rubbish back into their candle lit caves and begin to restore Australia to prosperity.
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Reply #23 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 3:00pm:
Miss Gillard has not been the full quid ever since its menopause started. It is really time the red witch got onto the broom and rode off to a quiet retirement somewhere near Ayres Rock.

Still, the poor old cane toad is holding the door open for Mr Abbott to walk in and chase the Communist Greens and their stupid unsustainable Socialist rubbish back into their candle lit caves and begin to restore Australia to prosperity.

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Reply #24 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 3:22pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
The fundamental problem here, is that gutless governments have handed over the power to "independent tribunals" like IPART to set pricing.

Who is IPART accountable to ?   No one. 

Why cant the government set pricing ?   because they dont want to cope the flack so they outsource decisions.

Government is supposed to govern.



need harry trumans plaque on his desk..."the buck stops here"

good point dr j,  arms length , but for a purely political purpose.
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Re: Is Gillard the full quid?
Reply #25 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 3:59pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
The fundamental problem here, is that gutless governments have handed over the power to "independent tribunals" like IPART to set pricing.

Who is IPART accountable to ?   No one. 

Why cant the government set pricing ?   because they dont want to cope the flack so they outsource decisions.

Government is supposed to govern.







The joys of privatisation ...


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In the old days, the bigwigs of the State Electricity Commission would trudge up to State Parliament to be questioned by an economics committee over a 5 per cent rise. They would be responsible. There is no way they would have presided over 18 per cent price rises two years in a row.

But who is responsible now? TransGrid, Ausgrid, EnergyAustralia, Essential Energy, the generator, the retailer, the distributor, the transmission operator, or the co-generator? It's impossible to tell.

At present, we have a system in which a weak regulator presides over powerful industry concerns and state governments who benefit from rising power bills. It clearly doesn't work.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/customers-caught-in-vicious-circuit-as-p...




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Reply #26 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 6:40pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:22pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:27pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wasn't the whole point of the carbon tax to cause prices to rise so we will use less?





To a MINOR extent, YES
The MAJOR purpose is to bring investment dollars to CLEANER energy production

Carbon permit sales to big polluters are an INTEREM measure to an ETS - meaning the filth mongers will have to BUY these permits from the allocation GIVEN to the wind and solar sector, annually

If YOU had million or two to invest, where would YOU put it ?




On the coalition to win the next election


You are joking i hope. Whatever government is in office gets your money anyway.

SOB


Didn't get mine.
12% overall tax rate in the end....


Who cares. You arent here. Go find a yank board to skite on.

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Reply #27 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:23pm
 
the CARBON TAX we were not going to have  is just an other excuse for increases.one side blames the TAX the other says no it isnt...prove it.

and so it goes on..at least if we want to know what we have paid for GST the bill tells us so..

but with this CARBON TAX as far as I know there is nothing to show us what is the cause of the increase..

maybe its time they looked at a way of us being told.. yes we have to put the price up because we need the money for????????..

and list it out..

they can put the GST on the bill why not the CARBON TAX..

if the CEO is going to get a big fat rise tell us..then we all know dont we????

if the govt wants another chunk of hidden TAX then tell us.
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Reply #28 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm
 
For a moment, I associated Gillard & full quid, with FD's "Squid & Pregnancy" thread.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344247171

I'll have to get a real life, one day!
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Reply #29 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:23pm
 
It is no wonder that Miss Gillard is not the full DOLLAR as Miss Gillard has a lot on the mind apart from the witch's peaked hat.

At the front those welfare parasites, the ridiculous impractical Communist Greens, have a deathlike grip on Miss Gillard's massive schnozzle and are just dragging the old dear along from chaos to catastrophe as they force their Labor puppet to carry out their instructions to destroy Australia. The independents are rushing around in circles saying "It is all OK just so long as we stay in POWER".

The insidious malignant cancer of the Communist Greens "CO2" Socialist TAX is slowly spreading throughout the Australian economy and is directly responsible for the increases in electricity prices which will spread the cancer throughout every part of the Australian economy. A reliable prediction is 15% increase in the cost of living by Xmas 2012 and 20% increase in the cost of living by the election - a superb leadup to the election for the Coalition together with Miss Gillard arm in arm with Mr Thomson and Mr Slipper epitomizing the utter incompetence and stupidity of the ex-unionist Labor morons and the unsustainable Socialist madness of their controller the nasty insidious destructive lethal vile Communist Greens.


At the rear are the Sussex Street Union Power Brokers desperately trying to slide Miss Gillard off the throne before Miss Gillard drags Labor so far down into the quicksand of political oblivion that they fear the horrible destructive Communist Greens will take over the 2nd spot by picking up lots of totally disillusioned former Labor voters.

The Sussex Street lads are probably behind the resurgence of the minute re-examination of Miss Gillard's time with Mr Wilson as they are probably going to use this to slide poor old Miss Gillard off the throne and into political oblivion.

http://pickeringpost.com/article/is-the-prime-minister-a-crook/324

Greenie Earthians, while you are allowed to be gullible dreemers you cannot alter the TRUTH with sarcastic angry ridicule and denial.
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