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Reply #180 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:18pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.

the alleged fraud by a fraud  Grin Grin
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #181 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.



Do yo not think that the authors bias would make his content doubtful?
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #182 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:56pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.



Do yo not think that the authors bias would make his content doubtful?

If you can point me to something specific in the article you find doubtful, then ill join in.
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #183 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:56pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.



Do yo not think that the authors bias would make his content doubtful?

Oh, i get it: because he is smoking crack he can't see words that start with the letter 'b'... it all makes sense now  Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #184 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:59pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.



Do yo not think that the authors bias would make his content doubtful?

If you can point me to something specific in the article you find doubtful, then ill join in.

** warning warning: circle jerk alert  Roll Eyes
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #185 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 10:08pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:32am:
My guess is Christopher Booker is writing this not from being a respected reasonable jouirno, but as someone who is basically anti-science.


Note that he also disputes passive smokings relationship with cancer as wells as asbestos role in health issues.

Is that the best ya got.

Try to keep up. Yes indeed, this will be the greatest scandal in the history of science



Well admittedly finding bias in an author who says its all a scam is pretty good Wink

It is not about the author, it is about the content of this thread. It is the out and out fraud of cool the past and warm the present.



Do yo not think that the authors bias would make his content doubtful?

If you can point me to something specific in the article you find doubtful, then ill join in.


I could make the same riposte withyourself and any climate change article
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #186 - Mar 7th, 2015 at 11:31pm
 
Check out the way the fraud cool the past warm the present works.

Can Temperature Adjustments Right a Wrong?


Discussion

Automated methods to adjust raw temperature data collected from USHCN stations (and by extension, GHCN stations) are intended to improve the accuracy of regional and global temperature calculations to, in part, better monitor trends in temperature change. However, such adjustments show questionable skill in correcting the presumed flaws in the raw data. When comparing the raw data and adjustments from a USHCN station to a nearby CRN station, no improvement is apparent. It could be argued that the adjustments degraded the results. Furthermore, additional uncertainty is introduced when monthly averages are computed from incomplete data. This uncertainty is propagated when adjustments are later made to the data.

A Note on Cherry-Picking

Some will undoubtedly claim that I cherry-picked the data to make a point, and they will be correct. I specifically looked for the closest-possible CRN and USHCN station pairs, with the USHCN station having a class 1 or 2 rating. My assumption was that their differences would be minimized. The fact that a second CRN station was located less than a mile away cemented the decision to analyze this location. If anyone is able to locate a CRN and USHCN pair closer than 50 meters, I will gladly analyze their differences.


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/06/can-adjustments-right-a-wrong/
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Reply #187 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 9:17pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 7th, 2015 at 11:31pm:
Check out the way the fraud cool the past warm the present works.

Can Temperature Adjustments Right a Wrong?


Discussion

Automated methods to adjust raw temperature data collected from USHCN stations (and by extension, GHCN stations) are intended to improve the accuracy of regional and global temperature calculations to, in part, better monitor trends in temperature change. However, such adjustments show questionable skill in correcting the presumed flaws in the raw data. When comparing the raw data and adjustments from a USHCN station to a nearby CRN station, no improvement is apparent. It could be argued that the adjustments degraded the results. Furthermore, additional uncertainty is introduced when monthly averages are computed from incomplete data. This uncertainty is propagated when adjustments are later made to the data.

A Note on Cherry-Picking

Some will undoubtedly claim that I cherry-picked the data to make a point, and they will be correct. I specifically looked for the closest-possible CRN and USHCN station pairs, with the USHCN station having a class 1 or 2 rating. My assumption was that their differences would be minimized. The fact that a second CRN station was located less than a mile away cemented the decision to analyze this location. If anyone is able to locate a CRN and USHCN pair closer than 50 meters, I will gladly analyze their differences.


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/06/can-adjustments-right-a-wrong/

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Reply #188 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 12:47am
 
Two-thirds of Australias warming due to “adjustments” — according to 84 historic stations



Here’s an update to the digging through our historic records we discussed a month ago, we can now include nearly twice the stations and the difference between temperatures originally recorded 100 years ago and temperatures today are even smaller.

Chris Gillham has been working with CSIR documents and official Commonwealth Year Books. Last month he used the 1953 Year Book which contained 44 weather station averages for 1911-40 to compare with 2000-14 temperatures, but has since discovered that the 1954 Year Book provides an additional 40 stations with 1911-40 data. The average rise in mean temperatures across all 84 weather stations around Australia over the last 70 years of global warming is about 0.3C. This larger dataset suggests as much as two thirds of the current official trend in Australian warming was due to post hoc adjustments, not heat recorded by thermometers.

These historic temperatures were calculated by the best scientists of the day, using the best equipment of the era (the same Stevenson Screen we use now). Yet again, global warming appears to have a “man-made” contribution. Far more important than CO2 is man-made “pollution” called homogenisation.

When doubling the recorded trend makes “No difference”

Bear in mind – some adjustments are necessary because raw is not automatically right. Stations have moved. But the Australian Met bureau can’t explain why all these adjustments are necessary, and indeed still claims the adjustments make no difference to the trend when clearly they do. Ken Stewart heard Dr Vertussy, the Director of the Bureau of Met (BoM), claim on radio last week that the adjustments make “no difference at all”. We look forward to Dr Vertussy’s reply.

And then there is the bizarreness of the half a degree adjusted cooling that occurs in these historic records when modern screens are much more likely to be near tarmac, bitumen, jumbo jets and 15 storey apartment blocks. The Urban Heat Island effect means that modern temperatures are artificially elevated in city CBDs by as much as 5- 7 C, with tests also showing several degrees of UHI at regional weather stations. So we have the paradox that the old records near dirt roads and horse drawn carriages were apparently reading artificially warm compared to thermometers today near roads with 10,000 internal combustion engines passing daily.


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http://joannenova.com.au/2015/04/two-thirds-of-australias-warming-due-to-adjustm...
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Reply #189 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 2:49am
 
... more joanne nova  Huh but wait...............THERE'S MORE  Roll Eyes
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Reply #190 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 7:55pm
 
Leave Jonova alone, she is beautiful and highly intelligent and you are just an ugly unemployed loser thats been sucked into a cult, I'm surprised that you and illogical baboon haven't gone down to Jonestown to drink cyanide yet.
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Reply #191 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:19pm
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 7:55pm:
Leave Jonova alone, she is beautiful and highly intelligent and you are just an ugly unemployed loser thats been sucked into a cult, I'm surprised that you and illogical baboon haven't gone down to Jonestown to drink cyanide yet.

lol, femme fatale: run for the hills is the only option but,... we've all gotta learn the hard way I suppose  Shocked Shocked
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Reply #192 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 2:39pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:19pm:
lol, femme fatale: run for the hills is the only option but,... we've all gotta learn the hard way I suppose


yep, Sounds right- Kill The Messenger.
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Reply #193 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 2:52pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 13th, 2015 at 2:39pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:19pm:
lol, femme fatale: run for the hills is the only option but,... we've all gotta learn the hard way I suppose


yep, Sounds right- Kill The Messenger.


The idiot left are supposed to like whistle blowers ... unless they are blowing the whistle on the idiot lefts great climate change scam that is.  Grin
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Re: Temperature data manipulation exposed
Reply #194 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 2:52pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 13th, 2015 at 2:39pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:19pm:
lol, femme fatale: run for the hills is the only option but,... we've all gotta learn the hard way I suppose


yep, Sounds right- Kill The Messenger.


It's hilarious this muppet is the nominated useful idiot defending the indefensible.
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