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Why would I even try to discuss the science with a denier who refuses to admit what the science says and that is that there has been no significant warming for nearly 18 years. Claiming "then why" doesn't change the facts. It just makes you a denier.

IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

No "science" says there has been "no significant warming for nearly 18 years".  You are making things up

IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:
No "science" says there has been "no significant warming for nearly 18 years".  You are making things up

And the FACT that:
The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

Shows that the claim of "no significant warming for nearly 18 years" pure bollocks.

Fact are fact champ.  You can't just make up your own.

IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

Why do you deny this?

If you are unaware of the temperature record that there has been no significant warming for nearly 18 years, then I'm afraid pointing out where you are wrong would be pointless. You haven't educated yourself enough regarding the science and deny the current situation.

I cannot convince a denier and someone with 'faith' on AGW because your mind is closed to the truth. Your belief outweighs the science and reality.

If you were truly across this issue,you would already know about the hiatus in the warming, but you don't so all that tells me is that you deny the empirical evidence for anecdotal observations that support your fanatical religion but have nothing to do with the halt in temperature despite massive increases in CO2 output.

Please, continue with your denial. It is amusing to watch a denier, denying and ignoring the science and evidence.

Let me know when you have educated yourself regarding the state of AGW and the scientific proof of the hiatus. If you are not willing to do that, then there is no point in trying to challenge your religion with facts and science.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

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IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

So - are you only referring to the surface temperature?  And the fact that there was an anomalously high surface temperature in 1998 due to the El Nino  of that year?

Yes - I am aware of that.  But the claim was that there has been no global warming for 18 years - which is of course - complete bollocks.  There global temperature is far more than just the surface temperature.

That is why:
The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

You are talking bollocks.  And your inability to provide any evidence to support your bollocks, implies that you also know you are talking bollocks.

You are telling lies.


IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

You are the one telling lies buddy.

I told you:
The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

You told me I was wrong on all three counts.  I showed you evidence that backed up my statement.

What have you got liar?

IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

You are the one in denial buddy

I told you:
The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

You told me I was wrong on all three counts.  I showed you evidence that backed up my statement.

What have you got liar?

IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:


If you have any idea what you were talking about - you would know that there is more to the planets heat content than simply the surface temperature.

But you don't You are ignorant, and believe whatever Bolty tells you.

The SIMPLE FACT is  - that is , as has been observed:
The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

Then the planet is warming.

If the planet was not continuing to warm:
The arctic would not continue to melt
Sea levels would not continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance would not continue to decline

And even surface temperature, which you seem to want to cherry pick - average global surface temperatures have had a positive anomaly over long term average over all of the past decade.  This means the planet is warming.

Yes - I know an opinion piece by David Rose in the Daily Mail told you different (that is where all this "no warming" crap originated) - but you are wrong.  David Rose is wrong.  Andrew Bolt is wrong.


IQSRLOW wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

Do yourself a favour champ.

Have a think about where this planet stores heat.  THink about the oceans.  Think about the cryosphere. Think about the atmosphere.  And then come back to us and tell us why you want to measure global warming only by the temperature at the earth's surface.

And then explain to us why:

The arctic continues to melt
Sea levels continue to rise, and
Global glacial mass balance continues to decline

If - as you claim - there has been "no warming for 18 years".

Could you do that?

And perhaps try to provide some evidence to support your opinion.  Could you do that?

progressiveslol wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 1:29am:

errrr....do you have any idea what you are quoting there?

Could you explain why you think it is relevant here?
Could you explain what you think I am "denying"?
Could you show us where I have ever denied that the North Atlantic Oscillation impacts upon Greenland?

And could you explain to us - why you think that randomly quoting things you don't understand doesn't make you sound really stupid?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

science doesn't prove 

The AGW scam is unravelling before your very eyes. It must be hard to take when it's your religion, but the science says your theory is not only failing but the catastrophic claims have made your side a laughing stock.

You only have yourselves to blame. If there was ever a case for over egging a pudding, you lot had your fists up a chickens bum trying to pull the next one out before it was ready.

Comical really.