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Reply #150 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:08am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:25am:
I saw it on the 7.30 Report last night, Muswellbrook, loads of people in tents. Something to do with coal mining, which incidentally the town don't want, even the businesses.

In some towns the rents and food have sky-rocketed, and there's such a desperate lack of accommodation that families are forced to live in tents. Adam Harvey reports on one such community in NSW.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3567907.htm


hey gold_muppet are you satisfied now ??

It's pathetic how this whole thread has turned into a debate about the credibility of the evidence instead of the actual issue of homelessness. Just another one of gold_muppets strawman fallacies designed to derail the debate Sad
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Reply #151 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am
 
United States of America

Best country in the world.

fact.
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Reply #152 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:31am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
United States of America

Best country in the world.

fact.



As the great Eric Morcambe once said,..."Rubbish!".
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Reply #153 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:32am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
United States of America

Best country in the world.

fact.


as long as everyone has got a gun Sad
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Reply #154 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am
 


The tent-cities are only visible if you don't look at them.

Look at them, you won't see them.

A bit like the Weeping Angels in Dr Who....
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Reply #155 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:45am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
United States of America

Best country in the world.

fact.


What has it got to do with anything here? Hmmm? Piss off troll.

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Reply #156 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:46am
 
Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
The tent-cities are only visible if you don't look at them.

Look at them, you won't see them.

A bit like the Weeping Angels in Dr Who....


Heh they are going to eat us up though

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Reply #157 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
The tent-cities are only visible if you don't look at them.

Look at them, you won't see them.

A bit like the Weeping Angels in Dr Who....



Who cares?
Why do you give a sh*t if you aren't in one of them?

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Reply #158 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm
 
The nanny state is the problem - again.

You know what I'd love to do?  Build my own home.  Not the pussy version people refer to when they say they're "building their own home" these days - which is just paying some fat oaf to slap some bricks together, and charge $200,000 for the privilege.  No, I want to actually build my home, with my own two hands.  It wouldn't be as flash as the one I'm in now, but it would protect my family and I from the elements.  You know, what a home is supposed to do?   

But I am denied that right, and all because of the useless parasite class known as the bureaucracy, whos sole purpose in life is to make things harder for everyone.  Seriously.  Zoning, council approval, building codes, mandatory additions...the list goes on.  So, I either slave away day in, day out, paying 10 years income just to put a roof over our heads, or I'm out on the street.  There is no middle ground, you're either a slave, or you'll be destroyed. If I am happy living in a shitbrick hut, what business is it of the fat bitch behind the desk at the council offices?  Well, it shouldn't be anything to do with her, except that it contradicts her very reason for existing - to make things more difficult for everyone.
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Reply #159 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:29pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:59am:
Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
The tent-cities are only visible if you don't look at them.

Look at them, you won't see them.

A bit like the Weeping Angels in Dr Who....



Who cares?
Why do you give a sh*t if you aren't in one of them?



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I see you haven't got your battlers hat on today. Maybe if house prices go down again you will put your battlers hat on again Wink
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Reply #160 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:45am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
United States of America

Best country in the world.

fact.


What has it got to do with anything here? Hmmm? Piss off troll.

SOB


I'm suprised Hicks doesn't go on about the price of fish on mars Cheesy
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Reply #161 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:36pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
Here's one pic Longy:

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http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/wa-families-forced-to-live-in-tents/story-e6frg2ru-1226353723353




http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/05/12/1226353/753113-tenty-city.jpg


Ditch the kids and hubby and i'd give her a place to stay.....and a job.

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Reply #162 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm
 
... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
The nanny state is the problem - again.

You know what I'd love to do?  Build my own home.  Not the pussy version people refer to when they say they're "building their own home" these days - which is just paying some fat oaf to slap some bricks together, and charge $200,000 for the privilege.  No, I want to actually build my home, with my own two hands.  It wouldn't be as flash as the one I'm in now, but it would protect my family and I from the elements.  You know, what a home is supposed to do?   

But I am denied that right, and all because of the useless parasite class known as the bureaucracy, whos sole purpose in life is to make things harder for everyone.  Seriously.  Zoning, council approval, building codes, mandatory additions...the list goes on.  So, I either slave away day in, day out, paying 10 years income just to put a roof over our heads, or I'm out on the street.  There is no middle ground, you're either a slave, or you'll be destroyed. If I am happy living in a shitbrick hut, what business is it of the fat bitch behind the desk at the council offices?  Well, it shouldn't be anything to do with her, except that it contradicts her very reason for existing - to make things more difficult for everyone. 


do you have any building skills? and those building codes you so hate are there to protect your family and anyone who visits.
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Reply #163 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
The nanny state is the problem - again.

You know what I'd love to do?  Build my own home.  Not the pussy version people refer to when they say they're "building their own home" these days - which is just paying some fat oaf to slap some bricks together, and charge $200,000 for the privilege.  No, I want to actually build my home, with my own two hands.  It wouldn't be as flash as the one I'm in now, but it would protect my family and I from the elements.  You know, what a home is supposed to do?   

But I am denied that right, and all because of the useless parasite class known as the bureaucracy, whos sole purpose in life is to make things harder for everyone.  Seriously.  Zoning, council approval, building codes, mandatory additions...the list goes on.  So, I either slave away day in, day out, paying 10 years income just to put a roof over our heads, or I'm out on the street.  There is no middle ground, you're either a slave, or you'll be destroyed. If I am happy living in a shitbrick hut, what business is it of the fat bitch behind the desk at the council offices?  Well, it shouldn't be anything to do with her, except that it contradicts her very reason for existing - to make things more difficult for everyone. 


do you have any building skills? and those building codes you so hate are there to protect your family and anyone who visits.



yeh, thats what they say.  But I'm quite capable of gauging acceptable risk, thank you very much.

Heres a real case of what I'm talking about:

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As tree houses go, it's pretty basic: a few pine planks bolted to the sprawling branches of a box tree, a rope ladder, a hoist with a plastic container on the end and a swing.

But the builder, Stuart Pether, is pretty happy with his handiwork on the verge outside his home in Barrett Street, Wembley - and his three children are rapt.

"The kids had been hassling me for two years: 'Dad, can we have a tree house'," Mr Pether said. "So one Sunday in February, I said OK and we grabbed some scraps of wood and built quite a robust structure.

"The kids love it. In the afternoon, there'll often be six or eight kids playing out on the tree. It's just good, clean adventure."

Three weeks after it was finished, he said, council rangers told him it had to be taken down.

City of Cambridge mayor Simon Withers has a dilemma. He is sympathetic to the idea of kids enjoying themselves but the problem is the public liability risk to the council.

"As soon as you raise 'public liability' everyone runs for the hills, and that's what's happened here," Mr Withers said. "We have no means of insuring against the liability."

Mr Withers has previously railed against "the unstoppable steamroller of the nanny State" and said he was in favour of such natural playgrounds.

And though he hasn't visited Mr Pether's construction, he described it from photographs he had seen as "fairly innocuous".

Mr Withers believes the trend to swings and tree houses on verges stems from bigger houses on smaller blocks.

Trees on blocks have to be cleared, so parents turn to the street trees to create play areas. But because verges are council property, such structures are a council's responsibility.

Mr Withers said his council had decided to allow swings on street trees because the public liability risk was deemed so small. "We said 'we can live with that risk'," he said.

"In my view, councils need a policy - they need to get an insurance broker to get a policy for tree houses on verges."

Then, they could pass on the cost of premiums to residents like Mr Pether who want to build tree houses for their children. He said he would like local government to explore such solutions to the impasse.

The future of the Pether tree house will come before the full council on Tuesday.


And of course, the tree house was taken down.  Who has the resources to fight the pettiness of the bureaucracy?
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Reply #164 - Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm
 
... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
The nanny state is the problem - again.

You know what I'd love to do?  Build my own home.  Not the pussy version people refer to when they say they're "building their own home" these days - which is just paying some fat oaf to slap some bricks together, and charge $200,000 for the privilege.  No, I want to actually build my home, with my own two hands.  It wouldn't be as flash as the one I'm in now, but it would protect my family and I from the elements.  You know, what a home is supposed to do?   

But I am denied that right, and all because of the useless parasite class known as the bureaucracy, whos sole purpose in life is to make things harder for everyone.  Seriously.  Zoning, council approval, building codes, mandatory additions...the list goes on.  So, I either slave away day in, day out, paying 10 years income just to put a roof over our heads, or I'm out on the street.  There is no middle ground, you're either a slave, or you'll be destroyed. If I am happy living in a shitbrick hut, what business is it of the fat bitch behind the desk at the council offices?  Well, it shouldn't be anything to do with her, except that it contradicts her very reason for existing - to make things more difficult for everyone. 


do you have any building skills? and those building codes you so hate are there to protect your family and anyone who visits.



yeh, thats what they say.  But I'm quite capable of gauging acceptable risk, thank you very much.

Heres a real case of what I'm talking about:

Quote:
As tree houses go, it's pretty basic: a few pine planks bolted to the sprawling branches of a box tree, a rope ladder, a hoist with a plastic container on the end and a swing.

But the builder, Stuart Pether, is pretty happy with his handiwork on the verge outside his home in Barrett Street, Wembley - and his three children are rapt.

"The kids had been hassling me for two years: 'Dad, can we have a tree house'," Mr Pether said. "So one Sunday in February, I said OK and we grabbed some scraps of wood and built quite a robust structure.

"The kids love it. In the afternoon, there'll often be six or eight kids playing out on the tree. It's just good, clean adventure."

Three weeks after it was finished, he said, council rangers told him it had to be taken down.

City of Cambridge mayor Simon Withers has a dilemma. He is sympathetic to the idea of kids enjoying themselves but the problem is the public liability risk to the council.

"As soon as you raise 'public liability' everyone runs for the hills, and that's what's happened here," Mr Withers said. "We have no means of insuring against the liability."

Mr Withers has previously railed against "the unstoppable steamroller of the nanny State" and said he was in favour of such natural playgrounds.

And though he hasn't visited Mr Pether's construction, he described it from photographs he had seen as "fairly innocuous".

Mr Withers believes the trend to swings and tree houses on verges stems from bigger houses on smaller blocks.

Trees on blocks have to be cleared, so parents turn to the street trees to create play areas. But because verges are council property, such structures are a council's responsibility.

Mr Withers said his council had decided to allow swings on street trees because the public liability risk was deemed so small. "We said 'we can live with that risk'," he said.

"In my view, councils need a policy - they need to get an insurance broker to get a policy for tree houses on verges."

Then, they could pass on the cost of premiums to residents like Mr Pether who want to build tree houses for their children. He said he would like local government to explore such solutions to the impasse.

The future of the Pether tree house will come before the full council on Tuesday.


And of course, the tree house was taken down.  Who has the resources to fight the pettiness of the bureaucracy?


why have you ever built anything bigger than a lego house?
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