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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 11:38am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
Funny? Oh yeah!

Mr Doodleburgers - Hey Dad - you're a sicko



yeah pretty funny, superimposing the voices on the characters as they speak
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Reply #16 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 12:07pm
 
> It's a possibility that they knew what was going on.

Give credit where it's due. The young females knew what occurred, since they were active participants, and took part willing, since the events continued for a considerable time. Had they sincerely disapproved, they could at any time have resigned their employment and sought a respectable alternative. They did not do so; instead, they continued to provide sexual favours in return for agreed rewards - cheap celebrity and pecuniary gain. This is not new, and is often called "the world's oldest profession" - sc. prostitution. In short, they were practising child prostitutes, and encouraged in this by their parents and adult colleagues.

To now be complaining of past events at this remove in time is hypocritical, opportunistic, and cynical; but in today's world demonstrates true professionalism. They are merely leveraging their investment in services already provided to obtain further cheap - and now sleazy - celebrity, and almost certainly additional financial reward by way of "damages". With any luck they'll be offered contracts by the local porn studios to re-enact the whole grubby business in excruciating detail, thereby moving their careers to the next level. Given the insatiable appetite of Australians for sleaze and porn, they undoubtedly have bright futures as professional prostitutes and porn stars, and as "Australians making good in the US" may eventually be awarded Orders of Australia for their exemplary role models. Were Australian universities to offer degrees in paedophilia and prostitution, using "Hey, Dad!" as course material, they could open up new career paths as academic lecturers for Australian politicians, lawyers, and priests. Innovation is where it's at!
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Reply #17 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
Now that's twisted.
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Reply #18 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:38pm
 
Why can't we talk about this, the media certainly are.

The producer certainly had sufficient suspicion to put one of the make-up artists as chaperone for the child actor.
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At the head of the chain of command was the show's creator and executive producer Gary Reilly, who, after initially denying knowledge of Monahan's abuse claims, admitted he had "stand-up rows'' with Hughes.

While he never took his suspicions or the complaints of staff to police, Reilly said a final confrontation with Hughes over the allegations drove the actor to resign from the show in February 1994.

Reilly, who did not return The Daily Telegraph's calls yesterday, said Hughes had been "angry about the rumours ... defiantly angry about them.''

Angela Keep, the 12-year-old actress cast to replace Monahan when she left the series, was next to claim she had been provided a chaperone, prominent make-up artist Annette Hardy, out of concern for Hughes.


http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/behind-tvs-ticking-timebomb/story-e6frfkp9-12...
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Reply #19 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:03pm
 
I vaguely remember hearing about this somewhere a few years ago.

Yeah, it's pretty disappointing ........ and actually just as disappointing as hearing about Rex Hunt's affair. I have to say though, that as embarrassing as the affairs of Rex Hunt and Bill Clinton would have been, they didn't do anything as shameful as Robert Hughes.

I never watched it much, or at least at the time I was too young to understand its comedy and the only entertaining aspect of the show that sticks in my mind is the theme song.

I do however, remember some funny incidents and habits on the show, like a kid asking Mr. Kelly to spit on his hand and rub it into the kid's hand to seal an oath/promise (yeah, disgusting) and the lady with the typewriter mispronouncing "secretary" as "sechetary."
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Reply #20 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:20pm
 
Beelzebub your selected image says it all - read Moron first class and bar.
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Reply #21 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:28pm:
Was there something in the on-air content that suggested a predatory relationship?


I was wondering if anyone was going to notice the obvious flaw in the OPs rather hysterical post.
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Reply #22 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:49pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:55am:
I would like to know about the producer of the programme who allegedly knew what was happening and did nothing.


you mean like tens of thousands of people who know or suspect something is happening to some child and does nothing about it? Remember that 'suspicion' is not fact. It certainly appeards the guy was a sleave but 20 years later is a bit late to be complaining, child or not.
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Reply #23 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:16am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:38pm:
Why can't we talk about this, the media certainly are.

The producer certainly had sufficient suspicion to put one of the make-up artists as chaperone for the child actor.
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At the head of the chain of command was the show's creator and executive producer Gary Reilly, who, after initially denying knowledge of Monahan's abuse claims, admitted he had "stand-up rows'' with Hughes.

While he never took his suspicions or the complaints of staff to police, Reilly said a final confrontation with Hughes over the allegations drove the actor to resign from the show in February 1994.

Reilly, who did not return The Daily Telegraph's calls yesterday, said Hughes had been "angry about the rumours ... defiantly angry about them.''

Angela Keep, the 12-year-old actress cast to replace Monahan when she left the series, was next to claim she had been provided a chaperone, prominent make-up artist Annette Hardy, out of concern for Hughes.


http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/behind-tvs-ticking-timebomb/story-e6frfkp9-12...


Surely it can be discussed without blaming the victims. I'd like to know if they have introduced some sort of mandatory reporting system.
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Reply #24 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:24am
 
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I'd like to know if they have introduced some sort of mandatory reporting system.


Like what? If you think someone is really sleazy you are obligued to accuse them of being a child molester and report them to the authorities? Or that you are obliged to report all instances of child abuse - and while we are at it other big crimes like murder, rape etc.
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Reply #25 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:37am
 
A legal obligation to report suspected cases of child abuse. Did the producers of Hey Dad have a legal obligation to report their suspicions. We all know they had a moral obligation, but did they have a legal obligation to pass on their suspicions. Teachers and other social workers are subject to mandatory reporting laws.
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Reply #26 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:48am
 
MOTR wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:16am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:38pm:
Why can't we talk about this, the media certainly are.

The producer certainly had sufficient suspicion to put one of the make-up artists as chaperone for the child actor.
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At the head of the chain of command was the show's creator and executive producer Gary Reilly, who, after initially denying knowledge of Monahan's abuse claims, admitted he had "stand-up rows'' with Hughes.

While he never took his suspicions or the complaints of staff to police, Reilly said a final confrontation with Hughes over the allegations drove the actor to resign from the show in February 1994.

Reilly, who did not return The Daily Telegraph's calls yesterday, said Hughes had been "angry about the rumours ... defiantly angry about them.''

Angela Keep, the 12-year-old actress cast to replace Monahan when she left the series, was next to claim she had been provided a chaperone, prominent make-up artist Annette Hardy, out of concern for Hughes.


http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/behind-tvs-ticking-timebomb/story-e6frfkp9-12...


Surely it can be discussed without blaming the victims. I'd like to know if they have introduced some sort of mandatory reporting system.


Mandatory reporting has its problems as well. Its not as simple as requiring everyone to report SUSPECTED abuse everytim they THINK it is happening. You create an environment of accusation and innuendo. And in the end, the stats show that it really doesnt make anything any better. The real abuse was getting reported before and still is while the suspcision simply clog up the system and create anger among parents and teachers.

My toddler son dislocated and elbow and broke a leg in consecutive weeks thru accident. Mandatory Reporting required that it be reported as possible child abuse.  IMagine how many young children injure themselves twice in a short space of time and the wasted effort in investigating.

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Reply #27 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:57am
 
That is a perceived problem with mandatory reporting. I'm not sure it is a reality.
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Reply #28 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 9:00am
 
MOTR wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:37am:
A legal obligation to report suspected cases of child abuse. Did the producers of Hey Dad have a legal obligation to report their suspicions. We all know they had a moral obligation, but did they have a legal obligation to pass on their suspicions. Teachers and other social workers are subject to mandatory reporting laws.


The producer probably thought he covered his moral obligation by confronting Hughes and installing a chaperone.

He probably didn't want to get involved in the legal merry-go-round. I think that's fair enough too, the alleged victims have now come out, as they usually do when they grow up.

I don't think the producer is guilty of anything, he took steps to stop the alleged rot.

As far as I can make out the allegations are about flashing and touchy feely, so Hughes won't get much of a penalty, probably not even prison time, if found guilty of course, not saying he is.
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Reply #29 - Aug 12th, 2012 at 9:07am
 
It is always the children who are the most vulnerable. Their innocence is destroyed by horrible humans who prey on their very innocence.

There is not a penalty in this world which is large enough to deal with these monsters who threaten our chidlren.
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