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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #30 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 1:45pm:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

Gillard will never support anything that has even a semblance of stopping the boats ... it's not in her political interests ....

Fixed.

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #31 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:34pm

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

The government is incompetent.
Even the coneheads in the Greens party know this.
Tony knows this.
Why don't you know this?
Are you the only one?

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #33 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

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Australian federal election, 2010

A federal election was held on Saturday, 21 August 2010 for members of the 43rd Parliament of Australia. The incumbent centre-left Australian Labor Party led by Prime Minister Julia Gillard won a second term against the opposition centre-right Liberal/National Coalition led by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2010

Have you been out of town? By the way, WWII is over with the allies being victorious. Try and keep up.

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack? Reply #35 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 9:33pm Immi.gov.au
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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #36 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 3:27am

salad in wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

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Australian federal election, 2010

A federal election was held on Saturday, 21 August 2010 for members of the 43rd Parliament of Australia. The incumbent centre-left Australian Labor Party led by Prime Minister Julia Gillard won a second term against the opposition centre-right Liberal/National Coalition led by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2010

Have you been out of town? By the way, WWII is over with the allies being victorious. Try and keep up.

Another one who doesn't understand the separation of powers we have in Australia. Labor may hold executive power with the support of the greens and the independents, but legislative power is held by the parliament in total.

Your comments highlight your ignorance and perhaps explain why you are so susceptible to tabloid propaganda.

Tony could use his legislative power to help Labor implement their Malaysian solution. He has made a big deal about stopping the boats so why doesn't his voting record reflect this fundamental commitment.

Is it because he believes human rights should be held above a ridiculous slogan or is he being more Machiavellian.

Most of us here believe it is the later. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1340904189 So if Tony's political ambitions are more important than stopping the boats why make such a song and dance about every boat that arrives.

Bottom line is that you are being played.

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #37 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 6:59am

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 3:27am:

salad in wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

Quote:

Australian federal election, 2010

A federal election was held on Saturday, 21 August 2010 for members of the 43rd Parliament of Australia. The incumbent centre-left Australian Labor Party led by Prime Minister Julia Gillard won a second term against the opposition centre-right Liberal/National Coalition led by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2010

Have you been out of town? By the way, WWII is over with the allies being victorious. Try and keep up.

Another one who doesn't understand the separation of powers we have in Australia. Labor may hold executive power with the support of the greens and the independents, but legislative power is held by the parliament in total.

Your comments highlight your ignorance and perhaps explain why you are so susceptible to tabloid propaganda.

Tony could use his legislative power to help Labor implement their Malaysian solution. He has made a big deal about stopping the boats so why doesn't his voting record reflect this fundamental commitment.

Is it because he believes human rights should be held above a ridiculous slogan or is he being more Machiavellian.

Most of us here believe it is the later. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1340904189 So if Tony's political ambitions are more important than stopping the boats why make such a song and dance about every boat that arrives.

Bottom line is that you are being played.

Malaysia won't work. So we send 800 people to Malaysia. Then what? We get 800 people within a couple of weeks now. After those 800 have been sent to Malaysia, there's no deterrent (not that Malaysia ever was) and therefore no reason for people smugglers to stop. So what do we do for the other 50 weeks of the year now we can't send any more people to Malaysia? Malaysia simply won't work, so why support bad policy? Tony is making the right decision. It's that simple.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack? Reply #38 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:10am That's assuming the first 800 are prepared to sacrifice themselves and their savings for the common good. Anyway, if Tony had of given them a crack at it we'd know for sure.
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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #39 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:21am

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

That's assuming the first 800 are prepared to sacrifice themselves and their savings for the common good.

Anyway, if Tony had of given them a crack at it we'd know for sure.

How will those 800 know where they're going to end up? Do you think people smugglers are going to tell them? Of course not.

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #40 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

That's assuming the first 800 are prepared to sacrifice themselves and their savings for the common good.

Anyway, if Tony had of given them a crack at it we'd know for sure.

How will those 800 know where they're going to end up? Do you think people smugglers are going to tell them? Of course not.

That's ridiculous. Was that just the first thing that popped into your head.

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #41 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:33am

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

That's assuming the first 800 are prepared to sacrifice themselves and their savings for the common good.

Anyway, if Tony had of given them a crack at it we'd know for sure.

How will those 800 know where they're going to end up? Do you think people smugglers are going to tell them? Of course not.

That's ridiculous. Was that just the first thing that popped into your head.

Is it ridiculous? Really? Are you sure?

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #42 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 6:59am:

Malaysia Nauru won't work. So we send 800 1200 people to Malaysia Nauru. Then what? We get 800 1200 people within a couple of weeks now. After those 800 1200 have been sent to Malaysia Nauru, there's no deterrent (not that Malaysia Nauru ever was) and therefore no reason for people smugglers to stop. So what do we do for the other 50 weeks of the year now we can't send any more people to Malaysia Nauru? Malaysia Nauru simply won't work, so why support bad policy? Tony is making the right decision is doing his utmost to prevent any kind of solution because all he cares about is his own ambitions, even if people die. It's that simple.

Hey, whaddaya know. It works both ways.

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #43 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 9:01am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 6:59am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 3:27am:

salad in wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

MOTR wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 3:51am:

Is Tony letting down the people who voted for him to stop the boats?

Why is Tony siding with the Greens and putting the welfare of boat people above the wishes of the Australian people?

Quote:

Australian federal election, 2010

A federal election was held on Saturday, 21 August 2010 for members of the 43rd Parliament of Australia. The incumbent centre-left Australian Labor Party led by Prime Minister Julia Gillard won a second term against the opposition centre-right Liberal/National Coalition led by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2010

Have you been out of town? By the way, WWII is over with the allies being victorious. Try and keep up.

Another one who doesn't understand the separation of powers we have in Australia. Labor may hold executive power with the support of the greens and the independents, but legislative power is held by the parliament in total.

Your comments highlight your ignorance and perhaps explain why you are so susceptible to tabloid propaganda.

Tony could use his legislative power to help Labor implement their Malaysian solution. He has made a big deal about stopping the boats so why doesn't his voting record reflect this fundamental commitment.

Is it because he believes human rights should be held above a ridiculous slogan or is he being more Machiavellian.

Most of us here believe it is the later. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1340904189 So if Tony's political ambitions are more important than stopping the boats why make such a song and dance about every boat that arrives.

Bottom line is that you are being played.

Malaysia won't work. So we send 800 people to Malaysia. Then what? We get 800 people within a couple of weeks now. After those 800 have been sent to Malaysia, there's no deterrent (not that Malaysia ever was) and therefore no reason for people smugglers to stop. So what do we do for the other 50 weeks of the year now we can't send any more people to Malaysia? Malaysia simply won't work, so why support bad policy? Tony is making the right decision. It's that simple.

so you've nothing to loose by trying it ... especially since you seem to think we get 1000 refugees a month anyway ... why not try it?

I'll tell you why, because you're afraid it will work thats why ... and then what will you morons have left to whinge about?

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Re: Another boat, why won't Tony give Labor a crack?
Reply #44 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 9:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

That's assuming the first 800 are prepared to sacrifice themselves and their savings for the common good.

Anyway, if Tony had of given them a crack at it we'd know for sure.

How will those 800 know where they're going to end up? Do you think people smugglers are going to tell them? Of course not.

as soon as the policy was first announced the number of boats dried up to almost nothing .... then it took off again after the high court hearing ... of course they'll know .

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