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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #150 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:51pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:59pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
Social law and international law, is invalid and carries no weight conflicting with constitutional law... Smiley Smiley


So, how far back in Constitutional law are we going?

And, if the Constitution gets changed, then its all ok, Right?

The constitution cannot be changed apart from a referendum of freemen - clearly anyone who holds to social or international law does not qualify as a freeman or as a citizen covenanted under the constitution with an entitlement to vote or sit in the parliament lawfully... Smiley Smiley

Ooooh!  Do you know where we can find some free men!  Post there details here!  Pics too please!

There are aspects of the constitution relating to the rights of freemen in the constitution which are "Forever" and cannot be changed or repealed...these include territorial and economic rights, the right to life, the right to defend yourself ect...Only people who have covenented with the constitution have those rights...you can hardly have those rights if you are not a "Subject"... Grin Grin

Freedom of the church is also an eternal constitutional right... Smiley Smiley


There's the good news & there's the bad news.

The good news is the Church's Constitutional rights are no more eternal, than are my rights and the rights of every other person in a true Democracy!

The bad news is, there is no true Democracy!

And, in the it's "not the nine oclock news", voters change the Constitution and save Democracy from itself"!!!

I am sorry, but you are ignorant, uneducated and unable to give an informed opinion on the timeless covenant nature of the constitution and law we are under.  You confuse your ideological beliefs with the Law itself... Smiley Smiley


I am sorry, but I have to ask, are you related somehow to "Longweekend", as your use of words has a certain familiarity & seems a bit like Longy?

Only kidding?


Seriously? You are confused!

If you think the Constitution OR the Magna OR any Politician is going to solve anything, YOU are sadly misinformed, irrespective of anyone's ideological beliefs or any Law - past, current or future!

But, good luck with your legal challenge & when you get it under way, send me a PM & I will ask the PM (Julia OR Tony OR ???) to donate to your cause & I'm sure they will oblige?
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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #151 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:13pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:51pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:59pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
Social law and international law, is invalid and carries no weight conflicting with constitutional law... Smiley Smiley


So, how far back in Constitutional law are we going?

And, if the Constitution gets changed, then its all ok, Right?

The constitution cannot be changed apart from a referendum of freemen - clearly anyone who holds to social or international law does not qualify as a freeman or as a citizen covenanted under the constitution with an entitlement to vote or sit in the parliament lawfully... Smiley Smiley

Ooooh!  Do you know where we can find some free men!  Post there details here!  Pics too please!

There are aspects of the constitution relating to the rights of freemen in the constitution which are "Forever" and cannot be changed or repealed...these include territorial and economic rights, the right to life, the right to defend yourself ect...Only people who have covenented with the constitution have those rights...you can hardly have those rights if you are not a "Subject"... Grin Grin

Freedom of the church is also an eternal constitutional right... Smiley Smiley


There's the good news & there's the bad news.

The good news is the Church's Constitutional rights are no more eternal, than are my rights and the rights of every other person in a true Democracy!

The bad news is, there is no true Democracy!

And, in the it's "not the nine oclock news", voters change the Constitution and save Democracy from itself"!!!

I am sorry, but you are ignorant, uneducated and unable to give an informed opinion on the timeless covenant nature of the constitution and law we are under.  You confuse your ideological beliefs with the Law itself... Smiley Smiley


I am sorry, but I have to ask, are you related somehow to "Longweekend", as your use of words has a certain familiarity & seems a bit like Longy?

Only kidding?


Seriously? You are confused!

If you think the Constitution OR the Magna OR any Politician is going to solve anything, YOU are sadly misinformed, irrespective of anyone's ideological beliefs or any Law - past, current or future!

But, good luck with your legal challenge & when you get it under way, send me a PM & I will ask the PM (Julia OR Tony OR ???) to donate to your cause & I'm sure they will oblige?

Atheists dont have the same legal right to arrest or to defend themselves.  I don't believe they can be PM either... Smiley Smiley
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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #152 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:19pm
 
Quote:
1. FIRST, We have granted to God, and by this our present Charter have confirmed, for Us and our Heirs for ever, that the Church of England shall be free, and shall have all her whole Rights and Liberties inviolable. We have granted also, and given to all the Freemen of our Realm, for Us and our Heirs for ever, these Liberties under-written, to have and to hold to them and their Heirs, of Us and our Heirs for ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta#Clauses_still_in_force_today
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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #153 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:45pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:13pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:51pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:59pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
Social law and international law, is invalid and carries no weight conflicting with constitutional law... Smiley Smiley


So, how far back in Constitutional law are we going?

And, if the Constitution gets changed, then its all ok, Right?

The constitution cannot be changed apart from a referendum of freemen - clearly anyone who holds to social or international law does not qualify as a freeman or as a citizen covenanted under the constitution with an entitlement to vote or sit in the parliament lawfully... Smiley Smiley

Ooooh!  Do you know where we can find some free men!  Post there details here!  Pics too please!

There are aspects of the constitution relating to the rights of freemen in the constitution which are "Forever" and cannot be changed or repealed...these include territorial and economic rights, the right to life, the right to defend yourself ect...Only people who have covenented with the constitution have those rights...you can hardly have those rights if you are not a "Subject"... Grin Grin

Freedom of the church is also an eternal constitutional right... Smiley Smiley


There's the good news & there's the bad news.

The good news is the Church's Constitutional rights are no more eternal, than are my rights and the rights of every other person in a true Democracy!

The bad news is, there is no true Democracy!

And, in the it's "not the nine oclock news", voters change the Constitution and save Democracy from itself"!!!

I am sorry, but you are ignorant, uneducated and unable to give an informed opinion on the timeless covenant nature of the constitution and law we are under.  You confuse your ideological beliefs with the Law itself... Smiley Smiley


I am sorry, but I have to ask, are you related somehow to "Longweekend", as your use of words has a certain familiarity & seems a bit like Longy?

Only kidding?


Seriously? You are confused!

If you think the Constitution OR the Magna OR any Politician is going to solve anything, YOU are sadly misinformed, irrespective of anyone's ideological beliefs or any Law - past, current or future!

But, good luck with your legal challenge & when you get it under way, send me a PM & I will ask the PM (Julia OR Tony OR ???) to donate to your cause & I'm sure they will oblige?

Atheists dont have the same legal right to arrest or to defend themselves.  I don't believe they can be PM either... Smiley Smiley


Actually, they do, it's guaranteed in OUR Constitution!

It guarantees "freedom of & therefore from religion".

And frankly, whether you believe anyone can or can not be be the PM, doesn't carry much weight with anyone besides yourself!

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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #154 - Aug 14th, 2012 at 12:00am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:45pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:13pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:51pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:59pm:
Prevailing wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
Social law and international law, is invalid and carries no weight conflicting with constitutional law... Smiley Smiley


So, how far back in Constitutional law are we going?

And, if the Constitution gets changed, then its all ok, Right?

The constitution cannot be changed apart from a referendum of freemen - clearly anyone who holds to social or international law does not qualify as a freeman or as a citizen covenanted under the constitution with an entitlement to vote or sit in the parliament lawfully... Smiley Smiley

Ooooh!  Do you know where we can find some free men!  Post there details here!  Pics too please!

There are aspects of the constitution relating to the rights of freemen in the constitution which are "Forever" and cannot be changed or repealed...these include territorial and economic rights, the right to life, the right to defend yourself ect...Only people who have covenented with the constitution have those rights...you can hardly have those rights if you are not a "Subject"... Grin Grin

Freedom of the church is also an eternal constitutional right... Smiley Smiley


There's the good news & there's the bad news.

The good news is the Church's Constitutional rights are no more eternal, than are my rights and the rights of every other person in a true Democracy!

The bad news is, there is no true Democracy!

And, in the it's "not the nine oclock news", voters change the Constitution and save Democracy from itself"!!!

I am sorry, but you are ignorant, uneducated and unable to give an informed opinion on the timeless covenant nature of the constitution and law we are under.  You confuse your ideological beliefs with the Law itself... Smiley Smiley


I am sorry, but I have to ask, are you related somehow to "Longweekend", as your use of words has a certain familiarity & seems a bit like Longy?

Only kidding?


Seriously? You are confused!

If you think the Constitution OR the Magna OR any Politician is going to solve anything, YOU are sadly misinformed, irrespective of anyone's ideological beliefs or any Law - past, current or future!

But, good luck with your legal challenge & when you get it under way, send me a PM & I will ask the PM (Julia OR Tony OR ???) to donate to your cause & I'm sure they will oblige?

Atheists dont have the same legal right to arrest or to defend themselves.  I don't believe they can be PM either... Smiley Smiley


Actually, they do, it's guaranteed in OUR Constitution!

It guarantees "freedom of & therefore from religion".

And frankly, whether you believe anyone can or can not be be the PM, doesn't carry much weight with anyone besides yourself!


I think you will find you  are mistaken, the constitution only guarantees the freedom of the church as described above and those covenanted by the constitution.  An atheist cannot lawfully occupy an office under which they are not covenanted - you dont even believe in the constitution - how can you claim the right to the benefits and power it confers?... Smiley Smiley
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Re: Same sex marriage
Reply #155 - Aug 14th, 2012 at 12:06am
 
Any citizen subject to the covenant of constitutional protection should certainly sue any pollie who attempts to abuse the power of the state to violate their constitutional rights for unlawful ideological reasons or under the authority of foreign law.  Social law and ideology carries no weight against us... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #156 - Aug 14th, 2012 at 12:14am
 
Where does an atheist get off talking about rights? Huh  Where does he derive such a sense of entitlement from? Roll Eyes  Its not reflected in his ideological social law - entitlement and rights are not consistent with social law which is essentially anarchy...and they cant claim constitutional rights when they don't believe in it in the first place...Atheists are a law unto themselves - they dont draw up charters and ,models for civilized behavior and order... Smiley Smiley
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