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Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment
Aug 13^th, 2012 at 8:35pm

THE Business Council of Australia has warned the Gillard government there is concern that the low rate of Newstart - the dole - is barrier to employment and risks entrenching poverty.

The BCA has taken the bold step of putting a comprehensive submission to the Senate calling for a welfare overhaul - an increase in the Newstart allowance on “an adequacy and fairness basis”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/business-council-of-australia-c...

A dole increase is long overdue.

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Reply #1 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 8:41pm

____ wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 8:35pm:

THE Business Council of Australia has warned the Gillard government there is concern that the low rate of Newstart - the dole - is barrier to employment and risks entrenching poverty.

The BCA has taken the bold step of putting a comprehensive submission to the Senate calling for a welfare overhaul - an increase in the Newstart allowance on “an adequacy and fairness basis”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/business-council-of-australia-c...

A dole increase is long overdue.

Quite a few organisations and private individuals have sent
submissions to the Senate enquiry into the No-Start rate.

I am one of them.

Submissions can be seen at: -

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate_Committees?url=ee...

if anyone's interested (doubt anyone here is, tho).

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #2 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 9:40pm I've just read the BCA submission, and it should be compulsory reading for the right-wingers here. And they couldn't discredit it by saying that the BCA are some kind of commos. A tenner says that they won't even read it, though
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Phallic Baldwin Senior Member Offline Phallic Baldwin Posts: 370 Gender:	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #3 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 11:13pm I cant read the article from my phone - how does it claim that the low dole will be a barrier to employment?
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Reply #4 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:31am

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 11:13pm:

I cant read the article from my phone - how does it claim that the low dole will be a barrier to employment?

I havent read it either but @ a guess i would say that you cant be "presentable" if you are living in the streets and too busy looking for your next meal.

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Reply #5 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:12am

Not bad.

51 submissions, from all kinds of people and organisations.

And the ONLY ONE opposing an increase, and supporting the abysmal treatment
that the unemployed receive comes from ........yep, you guessed it...the Govt
parasites who are responsible for the problem in the first place.

I'm sure they got Barbara Cartland to write their submission, it's pure fiction.

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Reply #7 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

How's that, Greens_Loser? Houston report recommends return to offshore processing. Greens lose again! Hahahahahaha!!! Cheesy

This thread has NOTHING to do with right-wing
xenophobia, or asylum-seekers.

Surely there are enough threads about that non-issue
without having to trash this one......

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Reply #8 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:19am

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

How's that, Greens_Loser? Houston report recommends return to offshore processing. Greens lose again! Hahahahahaha!!! Cheesy

This thread has NOTHING to do with right-wing xenophobia.

Oh, I see. Only left-wing xenophobia allowed, eh?

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Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment
Reply #9 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:23am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:19am:

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

How's that, Greens_Loser? Houston report recommends return to offshore processing. Greens lose again! Hahahahahaha!!! Cheesy

This thread has NOTHING to do with right-wing xenophobia.

Oh, I see. Only left-wing xenophobia allowed, eh?

Do you know what xenophobia means?

The dole needs increasing. This country will end up in the tip if we dont take care of the most disadvantaged among us.

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Reply #10 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:25am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:19am:

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

How's that, Greens_Loser? Houston report recommends return to offshore processing. Greens lose again! Hahahahahaha!!! Cheesy

This thread has NOTHING to do with right-wing xenophobia.

Oh, I see. Only left-wing xenophobia allowed, eh?

Do you know what xenophobia means?

The dole needs increasing. This country will end up in the tip if we dont take care of the most disadvantaged among us.

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No disagreement here. But how can the country afford it when Labor continues to spend money it does not have? They're making Keating's debt look like a pittance by comparison. It's going to take decades to repay, probably by a Coalition government. So where would the money for an increase in the dole come from? The only place right now is from borrowed money, and that isn't "fiscally responsible", to paraphrase Wayne Swan.

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Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment
Reply #11 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:34am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:31am:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 11:13pm:

I cant read the article from my phone - how does it claim that the low dole will be a barrier to employment?

I havent read it either but @ a guess i would say that you cant be "presentable" if you are living in the streets and too busy looking for your next meal.

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Exactly. I would imagine that after 12 weeks on the dole, the person would start to suffer the loss of their worldly place, their goods and their self esteem.

Imagine after six months? they would have all but given up any hope of finding work.

Some of the over 50's brigade have been unemployed for many years. I've seen 30cm stacks of applications that have been tendered over years of job seeking.

It seems the younger you are, the quicker you throw the towel in. I suppose older people have more to lose.

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Reply #12 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:06am

Unemployment can happen to anyone anytime, young or old. Those that are working today, could be the ones that are unemployed tomorrow. Yes the new start ( no start ) allowance is nowhere near enough. One wonders how many public servants, will soon be joining the ranks of the unemployed. A fair and just increase in the allowance, is long, long overdue. Sad

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Reply #13 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:08am

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Unemployment can happen to anyone anytime, young or old. Those that are working today, could be the ones that are unemployed tomorrow. Yes the new start ( no start ) allowance is nowhere near enough. One wonders how many public servants, will soon be joining the ranks of the unemployed. A fair and just increase in the allowance, is long, long overdue. Sad

Another shyt-load in QLD, if this morning's TV news can be believed.

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