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Reply #75 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

Atheists simply are not by any legal definition freemen, morally fit or qualified to sit in the parliament and discharge their legal duties and obligations to the freemen of Australia...

Australia is not a theocracy. If you want a theocracy go live in israel with avram or one of the muslim countries.

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Australia is a constitutional democracy...and I dont seed atheists included in that constitution anywhere...I dont see anyway they can be regarded as legal, as citizens or as my equal...

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Reply #76 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:42pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

While we're bringing in unskilled workers from overseas to work in abattoirs and across the country picking fruit and veg I dont believe anyone should be collecting the dole

For once I totally agree with you; need to make a diary note and check the colour of the moon.

One exception, the abattoir workers are skilled in the work before they get here; they are mostly from south america. The missus used to work admin in one and they had quite a few 457's there.

As for fruit pickers, there should be no foreign workers on any farm while one person is sitting on the dole.

The large meatworks across the country such as Teys Bros are full of Chinese, Koreans and Filipinos all here on 457 visas and mainly cutting up and packing the final product and in country towns full of Aussies collecting the dole
No one can tell me it takes an expert to sit on one of these production lines cutting and packing meat for Coles and Woolies

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Reply #77 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:44pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

... wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

Somehow, I can tell that this guy:

a) eats too much
b) exercises too little
c) is a failure in love and in life

JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM!!!!

Incredible!

http://www.joedeangelis.com/article-1109546-02FC81BE000005DC-841_468x355.jpg

Is he on the dole?

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Probably. It'd be quite hard to work if just getting out of bed requires a forklift wouldn't it?

But it doesn't matter anyway? You twits are going on about how you can't judge a book by it's cover - this example clearly shows that you can, do and must.

Well now that you mention it - how do you know he hasnt got some disease that did that to him? I knew a really skinny guy that got some strange cancer that made him look pregnant. Within 6 months he was really big then he died.

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Oh FFS. He doesn't look pregnant though does he - He looks fat. And he looks that wey because he IS fat. And he is fat because he eats too much and exercises too little.

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Reply #79 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:21pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

How do you KNOW they were 'dole-bludgers'?

Did they have it tattooed on their foreheads?

If only the rest of us were so lucky for it to be true.

I would like nothing better than to have a positive indicator that some nasty feral has ventured into my part of the world.

Believe it or not it is quite easy to spot a dole bludging feral based on appearance and you can always count on them to say something moronic to each other to confirm their status.

Being poor does not impede employment (I know from personal experience), being an unskilled moron does.

Sometimes it does. For a variety of reasons:

a) cant afford training/education
b) cant afford clothes to look "presentable"
c) cant afford a place to live so too sick from the elements to work properly

etc etc

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Poverty does not occur the instant you lose your job; if you are skilled and have been employed:

a) you are already trained
b) your clothes are already presentable
c) you probably are not sick from sleeping rough.

If you are not skilled at anything:

a) you are unemployable
b) you are poor and always have been
c) you have probably been on the dole your whole life
d) you're probably as thick as pig sh1t

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Reply #80 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:48pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

While we're bringing in unskilled workers from overseas to work in abattoirs and across the country picking fruit and veg I dont believe anyone should be collecting the dole

For once I totally agree with you; need to make a diary note and check the colour of the moon.

One exception, the abattoir workers are skilled in the work before they get here; they are mostly from south america. The missus used to work admin in one and they had quite a few 457's there.

As for fruit pickers, there should be no foreign workers on any farm while one person is sitting on the dole.

The large meatworks across the country such as Teys Bros are full of Chinese, Koreans and Filipinos all here on 457 visas and mainly cutting up and packing the final product and in country towns full of Aussies collecting the doleNo one can tell me it takes an expert to sit on one of these production lines cutting and packing meat for Coles and Woolies

Not at ours.

The slaughterman's a Muslim (they do halal) but most of the employees are Aussies.

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Reply #82 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:50pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:21pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

How do you KNOW they were 'dole-bludgers'?

Did they have it tattooed on their foreheads?

If only the rest of us were so lucky for it to be true.

I would like nothing better than to have a positive indicator that some nasty feral has ventured into my part of the world.

Believe it or not it is quite easy to spot a dole bludging feral based on appearance and you can always count on them to say something moronic to each other to confirm their status.

Being poor does not impede employment (I know from personal experience), being an unskilled moron does.

Sometimes it does. For a variety of reasons:

a) cant afford training/education
b) cant afford clothes to look "presentable"
c) cant afford a place to live so too sick from the elements to work properly

etc etc

SOB

Poverty does not occur the instant you lose your job; if you are skilled and have been employed:

a) you are already trained
b) your clothes are already presentable
c) you probably are not sick from sleeping rough.

If you are not skilled at anything:

a) you are unemployable
b) you are poor and always have been
c) you have probably been on the dole your whole life
d) you're probably as thick as pig sh1t

Big'Ol, that's absolute horse-shyt.

I know it, and you know it.

Or are you just after a 'bite'.....?

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #83 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:52pm adelcrow wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:48pm: If you lose your job and your skills are redundant then its up to you to reskill or take a risk and start your own business. By what authority does an atheist presume to speak freely?
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Reply #84 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:55pm

... wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

Somehow, I can tell that this guy:

a) eats too much
b) exercises too little
c) is a failure in love and in life

JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM!!!!

Incredible!

http://www.joedeangelis.com/article-1109546-02FC81BE000005DC-841_468x355.jpg

Is he on the dole?

SOB

Probably. It'd be quite hard to work if just getting out of bed requires a forklift wouldn't it?

But it doesn't matter anyway. You twits are going on about how you can't judge a book by it's cover - this example clearly shows that you can, do and must.

Had a guy exactly the same come in last Thursday looking for work.
Huffing like he was going to have a heart attack from walking up the drive.
Personable enough & keen, but I cant do anything for him because
A) OHS, he'll have trouble climbing in & out of vehicles
B) Company perception - Seriously having someone that size might impress a few but will repulse many more.
C) Cost - I'll be repacking drivers seats every 2 weeks

The sad thing is because of this "no losers" attitude of society I can't tell him his unemployable by me because of his weight, I have to lie & say I don't have the work.
Maybe if I was allowed to say
"Yes I'd give you a job if you lose 100kegs"(seriously this guy was 220kg & I'm being conservative), he might do something about his morbid obesity Sad

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Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment
Reply #85 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:55pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

The large meatworks across the country such as Teys Bros are full of Chinese, Koreans and Filipinos all here on 457 visas and mainly cutting up and packing the final product and in country towns full of Aussies collecting the dole
No one can tell me it takes an expert to sit on one of these production lines cutting and packing meat for Coles and Woolies

They need to be an expert at cutting and packing meat, it isn't unskilled labour.

I'm not saying they have completed a under graduate degree in butchery, but they still have skills that are needed to do the job.

I have been to a slaughterhouse (much prefer that word) and seen these people in action; I can tell you it is pretty impressive and quick. From live animal to steaks is no time at all. Your local dead head just won't have the skills and unlikely to retain them either, won't even mention the work ethic.

Full on dole bludgers can only do menial unskilled work and only for short periods of time; it's just the way they are.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #86 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:00pm Rights are only a given for citizens and freemen as defined by the covenant of the Australian constitution..people who are not legal are by definition outlaws and fugitives from the justice of the law...they dont have the protection of the constitution or the economic benefits that flow from it...
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Reply #87 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

Kat wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

Big'Ol, that's absolute horse-shyt.

I know it, and you know it.

Or are you just after a 'bite'.....?

Little bit from column A and a little bit from column B

Those that are unskilled and are not suffering from amnesia, have been unskilled their whole life and there is a pretty good chance that due to their inability to do anything, they have been and will remain unemployed.

It's just ferals being ferals.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #88 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:06pm All atheists should be put to work mining and kept productive to minimize the mischief these morally challenged sub-citizens can cause...
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Poverty Dole Rate Impedes Employment Reply #89 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:07pm Prevailing wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:06pm: All atheists should be put to work mining and kept productive to minimize the mischief these morally challenged sub-citizens can cause... Mining pays good money..I dont think you'll find atheists complaining
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