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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26267 Gender:	Houston: turning back boats CAN work Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:58am Angus Houston delivered a second slap in the face to Gillard when he said that turning back boats CAN work... http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/turnbacks-will-work-but-under-new-rules/st...
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Guildford Gold Member Offline It's Only Me Posts: 500 SE Victoria Gender:	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #1 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am Houston, "we don't have a problem" Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26267 Gender:	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #2 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:13am Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am: Houston, "we don't have a problem" Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives. Yeah, no thanks to Gillard or Bowen.
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Reply #3 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

Houston, "we don't have a problem"

Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives.

Yeah, no thanks to Gillard or Bowen.

Actually no thanks to ANY politician.

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Reply #4 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

Houston, "we don't have a problem"

Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives.

Yeah, no thanks to Gillard or Bowen.

Actually no thanks to ANY politician.

Actually, thanks to the Coalition. They've had this same policy consistently for over a decade and have proven what everyone knew all along - Gillard and Bowen royally screwed up!

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Reply #5 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:22am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

Houston, "we don't have a problem"

Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives.

Yeah, no thanks to Gillard or Bowen.

Actually no thanks to ANY politician.

Actually, thanks to the Coalition. They've had this same policy consistently for over a decade and have proven what everyone knew all along - Gillard and Bowen royally screwed up!

Are you suggesting the independent panel wasn't independent, and was doing the oppositions bidding?

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Reply #6 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:23am

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Guildford wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

Houston, "we don't have a problem"

Sorry just had to do it. Im just happy that sonething will be done for these people who risk their lives.

Yeah, no thanks to Gillard or Bowen.

Actually no thanks to ANY politician.

Actually, thanks to the Coalition. They've had this same policy consistently for over a decade and have proven what everyone knew all along - Gillard and Bowen royally screwed up!

Are you suggesting the independent panel wasn't independent, and was doing the oppositions bidding?

No, not at all. I mean, thanks to the Coalition for having a good policy for the panel to examine. I wonder if the panel would've come up with it if such a policy had never existed.

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Reply #7 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:54am

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Former chief of defence Angus Houston said turning back the boats could be "operationally achieved".

However, "the conditions for turning the boats back do not exist right now," he said.

"That may change if we have arrangements with other regional countries that may be prepared to accept boats that are flagged to that particular nation.

"You can't turn the boats back unless the country that is responsible for the flagged vessel is prepared to accept them back."

The report identifies Indonesia as a "significant country" in regard to points of departure but also said that public statements by its politicians indicated its reaction to a turnback policy would be "negative".

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/turnbacks-will-work-but-under-new-rules/st...

As usual the faithful have completely ignored the whole crux of the argument......Indonesia will not take back asylum seeker boats and have indicated they have no intention to do so.....If everyone treated asylum seekers like Australia where would they go.....Australia is not deterring asylum seekers for any other reason than for domestic political gain.....Treating refugees like criminals is inhumane and persecutes very desperate people for no other reason than to deny them freedom.....Australia has nothing to be proud of and turning the boats back is still a stupid policy!!!

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Reply #8 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:52am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Angus Houston delivered a second slap in the face to Gillard when he said that turning back boats CAN work...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/turnbacks-will-work-but-under-new-rules/st...

It won't work. OP is lucky to have several retired admirals. These admirals have stated clearly that it won't work.

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Reply #9 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:17am

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

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Former chief of defence Angus Houston said turning back the boats could be "operationally achieved".

However, "the conditions for turning the boats back do not exist right now," he said.

"That may change if we have arrangements with other regional countries that may be prepared to accept boats that are flagged to that particular nation.

"You can't turn the boats back unless the country that is responsible for the flagged vessel is prepared to accept them back."

The report identifies Indonesia as a "significant country" in regard to points of departure but also said that public statements by its politicians indicated its reaction to a turnback policy would be "negative".

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/turnbacks-will-work-but-under-new-rules/st...

As usual the faithful have completely ignored the whole crux of the argument......Indonesia will not take back asylum seeker boats and have indicated they have no intention to do so.....If everyone treated asylum seekers like Australia where would they go.....Australia is not deterring asylum seekers for any other reason than for domestic political gain.....Treating refugees like criminals is inhumane and persecutes very desperate people for no other reason than to deny them freedom.....Australia has nothing to be proud of and turning the boats back is still a stupid policy!!!

Angry

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Indonesia does have to take the boats - if the boats are in Indonesian waters then they are obligated to take the boats

We have boats calling Australian radio station when they are still in Indonesian water.

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sexy_beast Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 575 Gender:	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #10 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:23am If people come here illegally, are not seeking genuine refuge and only coming here with the intention of living off the taxpayer, effectively stopping the immigration of people who are actually seeking genuine refuge, then their dying means nothing to me. I couldn't care less.
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #11 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:24am Indonesia DO NOT have to take the boats back if they don't won't to, are they are signatory to the UN convention for refos? If not they can say tough sh it. you conga line dancers don't care anyway, you would be pissed phony Tony's wedge has been removed, suck it up princess.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #12 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:30am I would like to think the boats will be towed to Nauru.. until they stop the people smugglers must be quaking in their boots.. be prepared for an onslaught of boats..until this stupid bloody govt gets Nauru ready.. I wonder if Angus will get his big kiss from juliar next time they meet????
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Houston: turning back boats CAN work Reply #13 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:31am any bets on Bowen losing his job?????? someone got it awfully wrong!!!!
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Reply #14 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:32am

Maqqa wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

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Former chief of defence Angus Houston said turning back the boats could be "operationally achieved".

However, "the conditions for turning the boats back do not exist right now," he said.

"That may change if we have arrangements with other regional countries that may be prepared to accept boats that are flagged to that particular nation.

"You can't turn the boats back unless the country that is responsible for the flagged vessel is prepared to accept them back."

The report identifies Indonesia as a "significant country" in regard to points of departure but also said that public statements by its politicians indicated its reaction to a turnback policy would be "negative".

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/turnbacks-will-work-but-under-new-rules/st...

As usual the faithful have completely ignored the whole crux of the argument......Indonesia will not take back asylum seeker boats and have indicated they have no intention to do so.....If everyone treated asylum seekers like Australia where would they go.....Australia is not deterring asylum seekers for any other reason than for domestic political gain.....Treating refugees like criminals is inhumane and persecutes very desperate people for no other reason than to deny them freedom.....Australia has nothing to be proud of and turning the boats back is still a stupid policy!!!

Angry

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Indonesia does have to take the boats - if the boats are in Indonesian waters then they are obligated to take the boats

We have boats calling Australian radio station when they are still in Indonesian water.

we can't turn back boats that are in Indonesian waters ... only those in international waters, and those Indoensia refuses to take back .... nice try Forrest

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